Energy healer and spiritual teacher Cheryl Stelte joins Rich to unpack why so many high-achieving women feel stuck even when life looks “successful” on the outside. From her Vancouver Island spiritual awakening to her Azarius Energy Healing method and “receive what’s offered” practice, Cheryl explains how early-rooted wounds, especially around the throat chakra, block fulfillment—and how to release them. You’ll hear practical tools, powerful stories, and a life-changing exercise to make better decisions now by asking what will matter on your deathbed.
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Cheryl Stelte is a spiritual coach, author, and founder of Star of Divine Light, known for her Azarius Energy Healing system and chakra readings. Drawing from her own transformation—from divorce and depression to deep spiritual work—she helps purpose-driven leaders clear subconscious blocks, reclaim their voice, and step into authentic, soul-aligned success.
Main Topics:
· The Vancouver Island moment: a direct experience of divine connection that redirected Cheryl’s life and work.
· Why success ≠ fulfillment: the “plateau” where nothing works like it used to—because deeper wounds are surfacing to be healed.
· Root → Throat: how early conditioning (even in the womb) creates a throat-chakra bottleneck that stifles voice, visibility, and receiving.
· The receive practice: hand on heart, “Thank you, I receive that,” breathe it in—rewiring overgiving and people-pleasing.
· Azarius
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Wendy & Rich 0:00
Hey, everyone is Rich Bennett. Can you believe it? The show is turning 10 this year. I am so grateful for each and every one of you who've tuned in, shared a episode, or even joined the conversation over the years. You're the reason that this podcast has grown into what it is today. Together, we've shared laughs, tears, and moments that truly matter. So I want to thank you for being part of this journey. Let's make the next 10 years even better. Coming to you from the Freedom Federal Credit Union Studios Haafer County Living presents Conversations with Rich Bennett.
None of those two is.
Rich Bennett 1:00
Have you ever done all the work?
We're gonna meet someone who's been there and found her way through. Sheryl Steilth is more than a spiritual coach and healer. She's a woman who walked pre-invention, heartbreak, and awakening to find a life that truly fits her soul. From building design businesses to living with indigenous tribes, to a moment of divine connection on a quiet beach that changed everything, Sheryl's story is one of deep transformation and purpose. We'll talk about what really keeps high achieving women's stock, even when everything looks successful on the outside. We'll dig into people pleasing, overgiving, and the powerful moment you stop living by someone else's timeline. And you'll hear the incredible spiritual movement that launched her into healing work. One that proves even loss can lead to light. So this isn't just an episode, it's an invitation to ask, what are you still carrying in and what might happen if you finally let it go? So how are you doing, Sheryl?
Cheryl Stelte 2:19
I am so well and I am so happy to be here with you, Rich. Loved our earlier conversation. Conversations and so great to connect and my goal is to really contribute to your mission here. So thank you for having me.
Rich Bennett 2:36
Oh thank you and for some reason, I have already been getting this feeling that you're going to be on several times more. I don't know why I just had that vision that you're going to be on not just once more, but several times more.
Cheryl Stelte 2:52
Thank you, that would
Rich Bennett 2:53
be.
Cheryl Stelte 2:53
truly
Rich Bennett 2:53
It's I don't know why but well, we're going to find out. All right, so let's start with a moment to change everything for you, a beach on Vancouver Island. Your
Cheryl Stelte 3:04
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 3:04
brother's spirit, an undeniable experience of divine connection. Can you walk us that moment?
Cheryl Stelte 3:12
Yes, you know, I was in a hard place in my life, recently divorced from an abuse of chronic alcoholic after 30 years and so found myself as a single mother with two children and was severely depressed. That was when being diagnosed with depression was just becoming the in thing, you know, 30 years ago. And so a friend of mine, we're waiting to pick oysters on Vancouver Island, waiting for the tide to go out. So she said, how would if I practice Kinesiology on you and because she was learning that and so I'm laying on the beach and she's doing all this and doing this finger muscle testing and saying, oh, it's a person and she's helping me with releases. And all of a sudden, as I'm laying there, this huge ball of bright white light is hovering above me and I knew immediately it was my deceased brother who had taken his life and it was just radiating so much love. I've never felt anything like it since. It was incredible. Now spirituality, woo, meditation, none of that was a part of my world. Whatever. And so she's going along, doing her thing and she's talking so fast I couldn't interrupt her and then she says, it's your brother and she said, oh my god, he's here and I know and she ended up channeling him and she'd never channeled anybody, you know, or you could call it mediumship. She'd never ever done anything like that, but she could hear him and his message to me was to start meditating. and that's what changed my life, completely took a turn and I haven't stopped since, I got off the anti-depressants within a few months of starting to meditate, never went back, and that's how it all began.
Rich Bennett 5:15
So I guess you really didn't see yourself as a healer back then.
Cheryl Stelte 5:19
Not a chance as a matter of fact, even when I started healing myself through a particular style of meditation that I developed unknowingly,
Rich Bennett 5:32
mhm,
Cheryl Stelte 5:33
myself how to access the subconscious, I never wanted to work with people. I had friends, I loved hanging out with psychologists and therapists, and I had these friends who really did amazing things to help other people, and I always thought, Oh, I don't know how you do that. I could never work with people, I'm, I'm, you know, it's enough to
Rich Bennett 5:53
help, uh,
Cheryl Stelte 5:54
self, I could never do it with other people and, well, it's absolutely what gives me the most joy in life next to my grandchild, you know, it's, it's, uh, so fulfilling. So yeah, I, I, I not only could imagine I was in 100% resistance.
Rich Bennett 6:12
Well, and before this path, Irwin, you, you had a successful career and fashion and interior design, right?
Cheryl Stelte 6:18
Yes, I, I, I had had the successful career in, in fashion design for a while, but it was before the interior design started.
Rich Bennett 6:30
Okay.
Cheryl Stelte 6:31
Happened on my healing journey, I came to realize that part of my soul's journey was to study interior design. And so I, I quit my job, I went back to school, I, the bank gave me all this financing, not just for the tuition, money to live on, but they've financed my loan payments. while I was in school. I'm like
Rich Bennett 6:53
our wow.
Cheryl Stelte 6:54
You're serious with no collateral. I said how can you do that? As a single mom and they said well because we real you have a great credit rating and we realize that when people invest in themselves that they end up making more money and you're going to come back and invest your money etc. I'm like are you serious? Okay I'm going and I melded my spirituality with my interior design business and when we were studying marketing I decided that my tag line it was going to be stealth design designing for the soul and it was going to be a spiritual interior design business and my my instructor said no Cheryl you've got to change that. You're you're ruling out 80% of your market and the niche or niche as Americans say I'm kidding. With not so much a thing back then, you wanted to assault everybody and she said you're ruling out 80% of your market you know you're only going to get 20% of the clients that you could I said I don't care those are the people I want to work with.
Rich Bennett 7:59
Right
Cheryl Stelte 7:59
and if someone finds me and they you know they're not that spiritual it's okay but that's I'm putting that on my on my sign and I ended up I was I had one interview scheduled you know I'm fresh out of school who starts a business usually you get your hands right but I had I had a lot of life experience I worked in the renovation industry for a very long time etc and
Rich Bennett 8:27
wow
Cheryl Stelte 8:29
and so I went for one interview and the owner of the company was 35 minutes late I sat outside they didn't even have a place for me to sit in the office for the interview so I went out and waited in my car she came 35 minutes late and I just thought no you're not my person I don't want to work here was the one place I wanted to work because they did feng shui so I thought that's it I'm going on my own I don't know what this like I'm going to figure it out and I hung a shingle and that was it and things came to me and I meditated and I manifested and the business grew and grew and I practiced my spiritual work through the business I helped so many people heal and become empowered so many women through interior design
Rich Bennett 9:24
what and I want to talk about that too because you work with high achieving women who feel stuck
Cheryl Stelte 9:28
yes
Rich Bennett 9:29
so even after years of therapy books and personal growth why do you think success doesn't always translate to fulfillment
Cheryl Stelte 9:40
well what I see and what even happened to me and in interior design business is our businesses or our careers so both apply and this applies to men and women it's just that it's primarily women that find me we grow through our business
Rich Bennett 9:59
right rich
Cheryl Stelte 10:02
You're growing through your podcast. I think you recognize that. You said you love to learn.
Rich Bennett 10:07
Oh yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 10:08
We grow and grow and grow through our businesses, our careers. And it'll always happen. We reach a plateau, we reach a fulfillment threshold. So it even happened to my entire design business. Oh, I was so passionate about it for so long and I was becoming more and more successful. And then what happens, it's like you're doing all the work, but the fulfillment is now flat. What happened? And I remember I hired a coach to help me through this. I'm like, this just isn't doing it for me anymore. I don't get the same, you know, it's it's the fulfillment that drive,
Rich Bennett 10:49
right?
Cheryl Stelte 10:50
Usually often. I mean, there's all sorts of wounds that drive us as well. But what happens is energetically and spiritually, we're moving more into our light. You you become more radiant. You you discover your superpowers through the work that you're doing. You you know, we're discovering more about yourself through your podcast. So as we become more successful, we're all here to continuously learn and grow period.
Rich Bennett 11:20
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 11:21
And so we step more into our light. And I see this all the time in the shocker readings that I do. And then that light shines on the darkness. It starts to shine on those subconscious blocks, the wounds and the traumas that started in early childhood that are popping up to be healed. So you can grow to the next level. And what happens People become masters. You all become masters of at a you know, at a certain level in the work you do. And then it's about unlearning your old ways and developing something so much greater. It's it's such a major shift. it's part of our development. So what happens is most people just try to keep doing the same thing or they'll or they'll find something new and they become a master or an expert very quickly. But it doesn't the fulfillment doesn't last because they're in a certain level of spiritual growth that you cannot push through. So
Rich Bennett 12:29
is
Cheryl Stelte 12:29
talk
Rich Bennett 12:29
right.
Cheryl Stelte 12:30
therapy, a lot of healing, all the things the self help, even meditation. Nothing works like it used to. Nothing at all. And you can create that new thing. But it's it's the fulfillment. So
Rich Bennett 12:45
Mm
Cheryl Stelte 12:46
what
Rich Bennett 12:46
hmm.
Cheryl Stelte 12:46
I do is I I can see that what when I do a shocker reading I can see in anybody when they're going through that. And so what happens is in a very short period of time I work with people one-on-one, sure you make more money doing groups, but I'm in this for the fulfillment folks.
Rich Bennett 13:05
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 13:06
And we work one-on-one for a short period of time. It's it's we do it intensely. I love to go deep and we uncover those subconscious blocks that are getting in your way so you can move forward in a whole new way. You gain the clarity, you release what's getting in the way and you're moving forward and you become the person you couldn't imagine. Because when we try and imagine where we want to get to next we're coming from that place of those wounds included. Those unconscious blocks are a part of our goal setting or our imagining. So when when I help release those it's like, whoa you discover more of your true self and inner knowing just leads you to something often very different.
Rich Bennett 14:02
Wow. With the subconscious blocks
what are some I guess like sneaky or hidden ones that keep people stuck in cycles of overgiving or even playing small.
Cheryl Stelte 14:19
Oh thank you for asking that question that's very direct. And some of the things that keep people overgiving playing small. And that sort of thing and it's really
Rich Bennett 14:33
good.
Cheryl Stelte 14:34
Way is it often starts in the womb. It often starts in infancy and so we eventually go back there. So what happens is you look at humanity as a whole. All of our conditioning, especially between men and women and our emotional intelligence. So you know we're I think we're pretty close in age. and earlier in our lives did our parents have the wherewithal to be the great emotional resources for us that we needed. It didn't happen and they didn't get it either. And so the wounds kind of accumulate generationally and science has proven that trauma is imprinted in the right side of the brain in the subconscious through physical sensations and emotions. And those emotions are emotions that were never expressed, that were held in and then it's the subconscious beliefs that are formed from those repressed emotions. And then it's the patterns that develop because of that. So
Rich Bennett 15:51
those
Cheryl Stelte 15:52
are we can we can work through certain levels through therapy, but we can't it's so hard to get to the early early programming that started even in the womb. And
Rich Bennett 16:07
science,
Cheryl Stelte 16:08
you know, I've done a fair bit of research in the womb and it's really that's when the oxytocin first begins the bonding hormone that we all need. And so many of us don't really get it. I remember hearing a fellow once say that, oh, you know the this sort of idealistic view of a fetus growing in the mother's womb and that it's all this unconditional love.
Rich Bennett 16:35
Mm
Cheryl Stelte 16:36
hmm, join and it's that's BS. Do not tell me that that's true for everybody. And I would say most of us, the fetus feels the mother's anxiety.
Rich Bennett 16:45
hmm,
Cheryl Stelte 16:46
If
Rich Bennett 16:46
mm
Cheryl Stelte 16:46
that mother has any addiction issues and we've
Rich Bennett 16:48
about
Cheryl Stelte 16:49
talked
Rich Bennett 16:49
Oh, yes.
Cheryl Stelte 16:50
Holy smokes does that harm a fetus even if she's not using it's that it's the mental it's the emotional addiction, those patterns. And the lack of a healthy relationship with the father or their it's often those unwanted babies. Hello, I was one of those the unwanted the unplanned babies. How that affects the fetus and you know, and I could go on and on. So what happens is the fetus, the baby, the infant, the toddler forms the subconscious beliefs that we don't even know exists.
Rich Bennett 17:28
yeah,
Cheryl Stelte 17:28
Because they don't know how to deal with things and so they make stuff up and it will always affect us later in life. I don't work with young people anymore because they're not in enough pain, they're not desperate enough. I want those ones who are willing to go deep and do the work. They've tried everything and and I have so many clients who, you know, done the personal work for 40 years plus and they say, wow, Sheryl. Nobody goes as deep as you, but they get the results. They get big results in the world starts to open up and they become their their unimaginable selves.
Rich Bennett 18:07
I'm glad
Cheryl Stelte 18:07
mentioned
Rich Bennett 18:08
you the part about the womb because for the longest time I've always believed until until you mentioned it about you know, if somebody's going through addiction, the baby's feeling that and everything they can feel the anxiety. And while there are fetus, if somebody had mentioned before, well, when that baby's born, that's a very traumatic traumatic experience for a baby coming out of the womb. But then again, with the way you just explained it, that may be a relief for that baby coming out of the womb because it could be experienced so many bad things as a fetus.
Cheryl Stelte 18:47
That's that's an interesting perception and and it could be, but they're still coming out with all those wounds so I'll just talk about my client. Ginny, her mother was a heroin addict.
Rich Bennett 19:02
Mm-hmm.
Cheryl Stelte 19:04
Dad had all his own issues and she's had to do some really deep healing in this woman. I'm telling you, you know, you're talking about people pleasing 100% people pleaser because she didn't get that oxytocin. And so Gore Mattay talks so much about the lack of attachment with the mother when the, you know, when the baby has that lack of attachment. And it's, we're innately designed, we're designed to receive love and when we don't have it, it's like we have to figure out a way. So when a mother with addiction issues of any sort, she doesn't have the capacity to love freely. She's just in so much pain and
Rich Bennett 19:51
yeah,
Cheryl Stelte 19:52
it's not our fault. I mean, what are you going to do? And and so that little fetus like Ginny came out and believed that she had to serve everybody else. And it was just when I helped when we started to touch into this, she could see throughout her life how she's known as the strong one, completely dependable. If you have a problem, you go to Ginny, those are the people. And so those strong women, you know, they become successful, they take care of everything they take, take care of everybody else, but their lack of receptivity is what really shows. And when I was speaking about getting to that next level, that
Rich Bennett 20:40
part
Cheryl Stelte 20:40
of the unlearning is you must learn to receive well. And I can see that energetically, immediately so many women are conditioned to give, give, give, give, give because of this lack of attachment to the mother, they didn't develop that receiving that unconditional love. It wasn't there, it didn't happen. And so with Ginny, we were able to undo that. And and this is this is kind of a cool story, a result of that. Ginny had a very successful travel business, multi-million dollar big business, and she was very
Rich Bennett 21:15
wild
Cheryl Stelte 21:15
as well. She was fried. She was exhausted, she was so burnt out and hated her business. So sure, she made a lot of money, but there was no passion left
Rich Bennett 21:27
there.
Cheryl Stelte 21:27
in
Rich Bennett 21:27
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 21:28
It's at all. And through working with me, she ended up dropping the business. She closed the business and discovered that she was actually a spiritual leader. Now, she had never even meditated, or very little. She never had a meditation practice.
Rich Bennett 21:45
And it was, wow.
Cheryl Stelte 21:46
Well, okay, okay. And she ended up becoming a speaker coach and she was in business with another person. And they were, they were putting on these retreats. And she invited me and I went to this one, there's a second one I went to, and there were over 70 women there. And I can't tell the tears rolling down my face when Ginny was up on stage, leading us all in meditation, and leading us later to do partner practices with no training. No training strictly on the work we had done together. Now, she had, by that point, she had done a retreat with me, so she knew what that was like, and she had done my advanced program, et cetera. But it's, she was mad to do that. And so she learned how to let the energy flow through her. And she taught a practice that I gave to her early on. She taught it to everybody because so many women suffer from this. We have been conditioned to give and give and give
Rich Bennett 22:52
give.
Cheryl Stelte 22:52
and
Rich Bennett 22:53
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 22:53
Put yours last. And so, the practice goes like this, this is how you, you develop greater receptivity, put your hand on your heart chakra, put your right there, so you really feel it. When somebody says something nice to you, gives you a compliment, or does a favor for you, whatever, whatever it is. Often those women will say, oh yeah, it was nothing, you know, the compliment, oh, oh, thank you. They brush it off. So you say, put your hand on your heart chakra and say, thank you. I received that. Let me breathe that in. And then you inhale the compliment. You inhale the kindness. You inhale the love of it's from a loved one. And you even close your eyes and bring it into your body and see what that feels like to receive. And it starts a new pattern. And especially if you breathe fully. And we're going to get into how to access your subconscious, I believe, in this conversation. And it changed her. And I couldn't believe it. Here she was later sharing this practice. And it became a part of the culture in that group. So people we would talk and someone would say, oh gosh, I love how your hair looks today. It's awesome. And the woman would respond, thank you. I received that. Let me breathe that in.
Rich Bennett 24:17
People don't understand the different, well, we're going to get into that. But people don't understand these little things that you talk a bit right there from the retreat can make you feel so much better. And it just, well, you're aligning yourself with positivity. You're keeping all that positivity in. And I hope I pronounced this right because you developed your own energy healing system. Was it as a serious?
Cheryl Stelte 24:45
You got it.
Rich Bennett 24:46
All right. A serious energy healing. So what makes different? And how does it help people release blocks at the soul level?
Cheryl Stelte 24:55
The main, the main thing that makes it so different is I teach people how to help others heal at the deepest levels. It's, it's so different and it's not about, uh, doing the healing yourself. So even when I do shopper readings, when I'm practicing the Azzarius, when I'm teaching it, it is, it is multiple spirits moving through me. It's developing the capacity to fully open up. And so what happens is, it helps the other person, heal at the greatest level, and it's like being in the flow of that, so the practitioner doesn't have to have all the answers. The healing does not happen from the level of the mind. It's sort of like, I really am in meditation when I'm doing it, and I teach others how to do that, and allow spirit to move through me, to do the healing, and then I've guided so differently. I don't have to have all the answers that opening up and allowing, and it's not like it's, uh, it's linear. You, you have to keep going into it. You have to keep going into it. And so what happens, the person who's being healed gets exactly what they need, because their problem, they set the intention, and that's what pulls the energy through me. And so we can always start with any problem today. Anything at all, say somebody's upset them, it will always go back to early childhood. So, so our anger and all of our frustration and everything with life usually, you know, at the later stages of life or even midlife, whatever, have nothing to do with what's happening currently are response, comes from this earlier conditioning, and then we're able to go back into the subconscious and go back to being three years old, two years old, immediately birth in the womb, even at the moment of conception.
Rich Bennett 27:06
Oh, wow, wow, I don't know if I want to go back that far, for the moment of conception, I don't know about that.
Cheryl Stelte 27:17
Well, it's it's actually
Rich Bennett 27:19
I don't want to picture my parents
Cheryl Stelte 27:21
know, you know, no, you don't have to cut to your parents. You know, people don't. People, but it's actually, uh, I believe the soul chooses the parents chooses those people who
Rich Bennett 27:31
Oh,
Cheryl Stelte 27:31
are, are going to mess us up, just the way we need to be messed up so that we can grow through those challenges. So the moment of inception is actually fascinating because you're just so in spirit and your inner knowing is so high level at that time, and then things start to shift after that.
Rich Bennett 27:53
OK, so if the Azareous, the little yeah, let's here with the Azareous program, is that virtual or is that in person
Cheryl Stelte 28:01
all
Rich Bennett 28:03
virtual,
Cheryl Stelte 28:04
all virtual. All the healing I do is virtual. It's what I teach because rich, everything is connected as a matter of fact, we're all one. We're part of the same grid. We're all part of the same universe. We are one, one soul, one fabric and we are all the separation is an illusion, except that we're all unique aspects of that one.
Rich Bennett 28:27
OK. Well, wait a minute, but the breakthrough retreats. Not virtual. Is it?
Cheryl Stelte 28:32
No, no, no, that's
Rich Bennett 28:33
OK.
Cheryl Stelte 28:34
Nothing person that's we get together in person. I cook and I love to cook. Oh, yeah, and I cook for everybody there are smaller retreats. I'll take up to seven women, and I cook for everybody, and I love it. And I because I want to put the theme of the retreat, the energy into the food, because it helps with the receptivity. So I want them to receive, and they feel so loved, and I've been asked now, would you please create a cookbook. And I just think, man, the food is not that great. You're just feeling the love. You're on retreat. And so it's about learning to receive in multiple ways. I mean, there's more to it than just that. But that's it's
Rich Bennett 29:21
sure. When are you
Cheryl Stelte 29:22
to
Rich Bennett 29:22
going to
Cheryl Stelte 29:23
try
Rich Bennett 29:23
run this for man?
Cheryl Stelte 29:26
Hey man, men can come too. You want to come?
Rich Bennett 29:29
Oh, OK,
Cheryl Stelte 29:30
you're one for
Rich Bennett 29:31
men. Because when you said I mean, you sold me at the cooking part, I you mentioned it. So I have to ask you this, what is your favorite dish to cook?
Cheryl Stelte 29:45
Oh, that's a tough question, because I cook so much. I like to make some things ahead of time. Super healthy. It's all organic. There's there's very no gluten. I'm gluten intolerant. So I will buy, you know, a loaf of bread for those that want their gluten, but that's kind of about it. Oh, it just changes, you know,
Rich Bennett 30:08
all right, I'm going to make it easier for you then. If you really wouldn't impress somebody for the first time, what are you going to make for 'em?
Cheryl Stelte 30:16
I don't know, you know, I can't answer that clerk. Because people are different and…
Rich Bennett 30:23
Well, that is true.
Cheryl Stelte 30:24
What's required. So it's kind of like this. I live a lot of my life in trust and one of the things, I have to say, doing the breakthrough retreats is, in some ways, sort of the jam of what I do because we're immersed in this spiritual container. And we're on retreat 24/7. And it's just spirit flowing through me the whole time. So when I cook, I honestly, I procrastinate in making my grocery shopping list. I usually fly out somewhere I rent a giant house, and with all these bedrooms and bathrooms and everything. And with multiple areas outside, et cetera, and it has to be a beautiful place in nature. And then, I go to do my grocery shopping. And so I'm usually making the list a couple days before, and I kind of finish it up on the plane. And then often, I can't find what I need, and I just go and get the food, and I'll try and pre-plan certain meals. Okay, it's not that figured out. But I never stick to it, because it's not always the right thing. And it might be like at the last retreat, I remember I cooked a Thai dish that was a real hit. And it was hilarious because people want the recipe. I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. And then, and I never planned on making my homemade Caesar salad from scratch with my own dressing. And that was a hit. And I kind of know what I put in there, but I don't measure stuff. And
Rich Bennett 32:01
on the same way.
Cheryl Stelte 32:02
Yeah, it's sort of a free flow. And then, I may be attracted in the grocery store to buy certain vegetables or a type of meat. I don't do this vegetarian. And I'm like, if people are vegetarian, the hardest thing for me is if someone doesn't eat eye nians. It's like, whoa, I had one retreat and does need eye nians. And so I had to make everything. Cause I like eye nians, and I put eye nians, I mean, we kind of put eye nians in everything. So, but it's, it really is a flow. Like, I have some favorites. There's a, a German recipe called roulade, but we wouldn't need beef on a retreat. It might be something I would serve people at dinner. I make a killer lam roast. And I really like that with, with sweet potatoes.
But we do eat chicken and fish. I like to make, I think of the last one, I made a ginger garlic fish,
Rich Bennett 32:59
oh,
Cheryl Stelte 33:01
just, you know, I don't know. And we have eggs for breakfast every morning with all kinds of different things.
Rich Bennett 33:09
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Rich Bennett 33:31
The retreats not at the same place every time. It's at different places.
Cheryl Stelte 33:35
it depends where everybody lives. So the last
Rich Bennett 33:38
Yeah,
Cheryl Stelte 33:41
retreat was in, it was south of Chicago. I can't even remember the place, but it was on this big, beautiful lake. Because I had, I had two clients in Chicago, one in Minnesota,
one in Texas, so this, so the location
Rich Bennett 34:01
central.
Cheryl Stelte 34:01
was
Rich Bennett 34:01
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 34:02
I try and make it easy. I've had them in Texas. It depends, it depends where everybody lives. And then I just, you know, hop on Airbnb or whatever and BRVO. And you can find mentions, you can find big houses. It's not that hard,
Rich Bennett 34:18
--
Cheryl Stelte 34:19
but
Rich Bennett 34:19
Yeah,
Cheryl Stelte 34:19
everyone Everybody gets their own bedroom, often with a shared bathroom with one other person. Sometimes you get a private bathroom, but you really need your own space and there's multiple
Rich Bennett 34:30
yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 34:30
places to meditate. There's usually like a living room and a family room. You know, some of the homes I've had giant theaters, it's a great place to do the surrender practice.
Rich Bennett 34:41
Wow.
Cheryl Stelte 34:42
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 34:43
All right, so usually I wait 'til the end, but I want, I want people to know now. If, having people become a client, so they can end up getting to retreat out here in Maryland.
Cheryl Stelte 34:56
Okay, okay, so you can go to my website star of divinelight.com. That's that's the best place to find me. You can, there's some good resources on their star of divinelight.com. You can find me, I'm just getting on LinkedIn, but you can find me on Instagram, and my name there is stelt. sharyl. So stelt. sharyl on Instagram, and you know, you can Google search me. Star of divinelight will give you. There's a lot of resources.
Rich Bennett 35:27
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 35:28
Information.
Rich Bennett 35:28
I want to get back to chakra's here. So in your shining through chakra program. Every time I say chakra, I for some reason I keep getting the song in my head Chakka Khan, Chakka Khan, I don't know why. But in your shining through chakra program, you focus specifically on helping women find and use their voice.
Cheryl Stelte 35:51
That's right.
Rich Bennett 35:52
Why is the through chakra so often
Cheryl Stelte 35:55
blocked? No, such a good question. I wrote that book because, and part of me had resistance to writing that book. I mean, I'm used to resistance. I kind of, I know myself to resist anything that's really good for me because my blocks come up. So we can all find that. But what I noticed was that all my clients over the years had throat chakra issues. I was like, wow, and I had worked diligently directly on my throat chakra. Years ago for about four or five years. And what I eventually discovered is that all our throat chakra issues start in the root chakra. It's that early conditioning that started early on. And so the wounds you think of this chakra system. And that runs up and down the spine. You can to give the Eda Pengala that she's Schumna and so we receive energy from the cosmos from the universe from source through the crown chakra goes down into the root chakra. And yes, there's chakras below, but that energy, then goes back up. So what happens is we get this early wounding and it all starts in the root chakra. And so what happens that wounded energy, those blocks that stagnant energy and I see it, when I do shop for readings, I don't see the lotus flowers with all the petals and the mandalas and the colors. I see them as light. They are entered
Rich Bennett 37:26
the or is right
Cheryl Stelte 37:27
energy centers. I see light and I see where your blocks are and they're black. It's dark and I can tune into what each one of them are about. So that wounding starts in the root chakra and it grows and grows and grows as kind of like a snowball. It develops develops and then that energy runs up to each of the chakras. And what happens with the throat, the throat is a bottleneck. Look at our physical bodies. Our body is kind of the same size, you know, from the, from the hips up to the shoulders.
And our system is designed for that energy to flow out and flow forward. So of course, when we're blocked in the root chakra and all those blocks come up, it's not going to all come out because you're trying to pour something thick. You can't out of a bottle, you think of a bottle goes and then and then here's the neck. We're the same. So if you have a big chunk of something in there and you're trying to pour, it's never going to come out. And so it affects us. We don't feel seen and heard. It's really hard to express ourselves and the highest level development of the throat chakra is to express our true purposes, to express our soul's purpose. And so it doesn't happen that way and you think of, you know, we talked about the overgiving that people pleasing in that sort of. And that starts in the root chakra. So we're giving and expressing from a wound. And that just helps it grow and grow and grow and affects the throat chakra. So when it comes time to receive to truly be seen and heard, we don't have that energy pattern happening. So we need to all your throat chakra issues begin in the root chakra.
Rich Bennett 39:19
Huh, I love the way you describe that, especially with the bottle neck thing because I, I never even thought about that, but you're right. It's our bodies are it's like a young here about that bottle neck. There's a problem.
Cheryl Stelte 39:33
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 39:34
Everything's getting stuck in there. Now that makes sense the way you describe it there. Wow. Okay. So, I'm just blown away by that.
The way you describe it is perfect.
But you've got to start doing more with men that did not sound right. I'm sorry.
Cheryl Stelte 39:58
Wow. Let
Rich Bennett 39:58
me
Cheryl Stelte 39:59
make that in. I received that. Thank you. I was doing more with men. You know what it's, it's interesting because I think I'm going to this.
Rich Bennett 40:09
Good.
Cheryl Stelte 40:10
Uhm, I was listening to one of your, one of your podcast, sorry, Doctor, the guy that does the Hypnotherapy.
Rich Bennett 40:17
Uh, Dr. Albert, yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 40:19
Oh, I keep talking about setting goals, talking about setting goals. And, and so I'm not setting a goal to work with men, I, I've kind of given up on setting goals. And the reason is, because we can't know who were meant to become. We can't know how the divine wants to move through us. We can't know. Just like, I never expected to be doing this business. Sure, people started asking me, can you help me with this? Will you teach me that? And so I just started responding, and it was a side gig for years that I, I didn't, you know, fully own. Oh yeah. I owned it once I started my spiritual and interior design business, but what I'm noticing lately is, I'm, I'm speaking, I used to primarily to speak on podcasts with women hoax, and I'm,
Rich Bennett 41:15
right.
Cheryl Stelte 41:15
Way more men and men who are interested, seriously interested in the work I do. And so men to me, you know, we're talking about the giving and receiving. We all kind of know men are conditioned, you know, we all had the conditioning provider, but they're also the head of the household, right. And so men are used to, in, in a very different way, expressing, doing, you've got to do that. And they often have a lot of pressure. But how well have men been conditioned
Rich Bennett 41:50
to receive right
Cheryl Stelte 41:51
to fully receive 100% it's the same issue but a different, a different angle. And I'm not, I have worked with men. Don't, don't get me wrong. I absolutely have worked with men who, who really want to do the work. And, and it's, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned it because I am opening up to it. And if it's meant to be, it's absolutely going to happen.
Rich Bennett 42:16
I think it'd be great. Now, granted, I do know that, you know, more women are open-minded, whereas men aren't. And I think you're starting to see men become more open-minded and receptive to things like this. I, at the eyes of you. I'd never even heard about any of this before I started doing the podcast. And I'm just, everybody I've had on where we talk about this stuff. It's just, it's mind blowing. I, I, I love it.
Cheryl Stelte 42:50
I love it that you're part of the trend because I absolutely agree it is, it is a trend. And what happens is this is, this is how I'll just use you for an example. Never heard any, you know, any of this kind of stuff before you started doing your podcast, you were guided to do a podcast. You responded to the guidance, you're like, okay, I'm not really sure how it's going to look and you may have figured it out in your mind. Okay, it's going to look like this. However, your process went for you and you're doing this. And remember, I talked about we are all energy.
Rich Bennett 43:25
Right.
Cheryl Stelte 43:26
And, and we develop our light. So you're developing more and more of your light as you do your podcast. So you're vibrating at a different level. And what happens is, you're receiving from all your guests and that fuels your light, you're learning and growing and their light influences your light. And then even when you're in your regular life, you go to the grocery store, wherever you are, you are affecting other You're vibrating at a different level. And this is how humanity evolves and this is where the world is right now. And so that trend, sign me up. Sign me up. I would love to be a part of that trend. You know, I have to say I love men. I've never been a man basher. And part of the reason I love men and I love being around men and groups of men. I grew up with four brothers. I was
Rich Bennett 44:20
Oh,
Cheryl Stelte 44:20
I had four brothers, no sisters. So I was you. And sure they, they picked on me when we got to a certain age. They didn't like.
Rich Bennett 44:28
That's our job. It
was me, two brothers and one sister.
Cheryl Stelte 44:36
Oh, so you get it. You get it from a different angle. But even in my, in my spiritual interior design business and I'm doing renovations on people's homes. And so I had, you know, I have all my trades there. And I just love me around these guys. I love women too. But I just can't step into the feminist role. It's not me. I'm not an alignment. I am an alignment with we are all humans. And we don't have our lessons to learn. And I want to be a part. I am a part. I'm an alignment to humanity evolving period. All of us.
Rich Bennett 45:13
I love that. Uhm, I want to talk about the spiritual business coaching that uh, through the programs, was it, uh, client magnet?
Cheryl Stelte 45:22
Yes!
To be a one and done kinda author and that was it, but what happened was, um, through my throat chakra program I was working with, started to work with more and more women who were in business, were coaches, um, smaller businesses, and they may have had clients at one point, but they weren't getting clients. First, uh, to that, prompted me to write the book. I was like, wow, one of them, she had one group, she did her work, and she was doing everything right, she was working with a very expensive coach, and she just wasn't getting any more clients. And time was going on, her credit cards were absolutely maxed, her husband was extremely impatient, because she was doing nothing but going into debt and not bringing in any money, and it had been about 10 months, she hadn't had a client. And, another woman, she was a functional medicine doctor, and so she had her client base, but she was wanting to get this group up and running, and again, spending a fortune on coaching, doing everything right, it never happened, and for her it had been about 18 months. And both of them, within six or seven weeks, had their groups formed, everything
Rich Bennett 47:07
Wow!
Cheryl Stelte 47:07
was done, and they were off to the races, and it was, and it really, it really served them, so I'm able to see where your blocks are. So we work together, I help you release those blocks, and develop your superpowers to help you radiate that energy, which attracts those souls who need you the most. And so, for example, Tanya,
she was a great Christian, and that woman prayed well, I was like, I'm doing her Shaka reading, and I said, "Do you pray?" And there's a certain energy that I see that comes off the top of the heart, Shaka, it's light, and it goes out at a 45 degree angle, and it's the energy of praying to God, it's devotional, and it's undeniable, I can peg anybody who prays well.
Rich Bennett 48:00
And I
Cheryl Stelte 48:01
said to her,
Rich Bennett 48:02
"Wait, I'm sorry, can you repeat that part that prays what?"
Cheryl Stelte 48:07
Well.
Not, not, not prayer just in the head.
Rich Bennett 48:13
Yes.
Cheryl Stelte 48:13
There isn't difference.
Rich Bennett 48:14
There's a big difference, and a lot of people don't realize that, thank you.
Cheryl Stelte 48:18
So, she was also very spiritual. She wasn't, she was very open. So, I could see this energy, and I said, "Whoa, this is a real superpower of yours. We can use this." And I said to her, "And so if any of you out there pray well, please listen to this. When you pray well, and I see that energy that you're in devotion to God, or whoever you're praying to, you're praying to that God outside of you." I said to Tanya, "Start praying to the God inside you." "Bring that energy inside because God is in all of us. God, we are all part of God. We are all
Rich Bennett 49:01
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 49:01
aspect." Of the Creator in a human body, and she turned that energy inward, and it was amazing what happened her.
Rich Bennett 49:10
Oh, I bet.
Cheryl Stelte 49:11
Chakra lit up her solar plexus. She got so much more in touch with her personal truth. So, forming her group was a piece of cake. She couldn't believe it. I remember the first client she got. She said, "I've been in this Mastermind Group for over two years. For two years, I've talked with these people, and she was at one of the events. She said, "I've never really connected with anybody in there." Out of the blue, after she started praying to the God within, this woman messages her in one of the meetings and said, "Hey, I love what you're talking about here today. Do you want to hop on a call?" They got on a call and she became her first client in the next group. It was just like that. Things just started happening. People just kept finding her. So all that she was doing before that weren't working began to work. Just it's just like that. That's the way it goes. I have my, my, uh, client that I'm still working with. She's in a high-end program. And she came to me and the same thing. She was, oh my gosh, this woman was working so hard in her business, had no business whatsoever. And now everything, they're just flowing in. It's all coming. She's getting bigger speaking gigs. She just got a contract to teach at some university.
Rich Bennett 50:41
Do wow.
Cheryl Stelte 50:42
Yeah, to do workshops to do these workshops. And I was just like around career planning. And, and that sort of thing. I have two women right now that are that just landed these contracts. Anyway, I could go on, but that's it's about clearing the blogs that are.
Rich Bennett 50:58
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 50:58
Can you from radiating all that you truly are, so we work with the light, the wounding, we go deep and poof, you shift.
Rich Bennett 51:08
I love that. See, and you say you can go on and on. That's how I said I told you you were going to be on several times more.
You've spoken about the importance of trusting your own timeline, especially when life falls apart. How did you learn to embrace that? How can others start doing the same?
Cheryl Stelte 51:29
Oh, man, it's hard. It's hard. But you can start with mindset because mindset is easier than heart set. All right. mindset. We're used to being in our minds. We're not as used to being in our hearts. So the first thing to do is look at your situation. How am I meant to grow through this? What is this teaching me? Don't ever ask yourself. Why is this happening? It's too vague. There was I watch a TED Talk ones on procrastination and the word why does not help us move in a direction? How and what, especially what? What am I here to learn through this? What is this teaching me? And you know, I've been up against this more than once in my life. And it's the hardest thing to do is to have that attitude that everything serves us and then the more difficult questions.
What in me attracted this? Oh, man, to take full responsibility for our negative life situations, for what we deem as negative, that is hard.
Rich Bennett 52:47
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 52:48
That is it. So what happened that I attracted this? What do I need to learn and grow through this? And folks, it's always going back into the root shock, where we always begin when we want to learn something and we heal that. And it goes up to the other chakra. And so that's starting in the mind and then going into the heart, going into the heart, feeling your emotions, but really going into the root shock, where you will discover in your subconscious, because I'm going to share with you the four most limiting beliefs, the four subconscious beliefs that are formed through our early trauma, through our early wounded. And those are, and not in this order. And there's various variations. I'm not enough. I'm unworthy. I don't matter. I'm unlovable. And we can shift all of those. We can shift all of those through this work and we can rise above absolutely any challenge we're faced with any trauma, whether it's physical illness. I've had to do that, whether it's an emotional crisis, the end of a relationship, the end of a career, getting fired, your business failing, whatever the death of a loved one. We can heal through all of it and become empowered.
Rich Bennett 54:26
You just mentioned something there, death. And I hope I can get through this question without tearing up. Talking about your exercises, you have a beautiful exercise, asking yourself,
this is strong. What will matter to me on my death?
Can you walk us through how you use that to guide major life decisions?
Cheryl Stelte 55:03
Yes, I would love to answer that. And I want to kind of want to know what's going on for you. And maybe I'm asking a very inappropriate question.
Rich Bennett 55:12
It's just that to me, I've never heard of an exercise like that, but it reminds me of I had another guest on and he said to draw a line and put a mark
Cheryl Stelte 55:27
on
Rich Bennett 55:28
which is when you were born. And then Put a mark on the other end and then put where you think you are right now in the middle. And is your deathbed?
It just,
Cheryl Stelte 55:46
you
Rich Bennett 55:46
hear a lot of people say they want to leave a legacy. You know, they're afraid, a lot of people are afraid of dying because they,
Cheryl Stelte 55:55
they
Rich Bennett 55:56
want to leave something behind. They feel like they haven't done it all. But this exercise is just, to me,
it's a beautiful exercise. Just to lay there and ask yourself, what will matter to me on my deathbed? I've never thought
Cheryl Stelte 56:15
that.
Rich Bennett 56:15
about
Cheryl Stelte 56:17
Thank you and I trust you will. Thank you for sharing and thank you for answering my question. So, when, when I had that meeting on the beach with my brother, Brian, is spirit. I ended up reading the book on Death and Dying Elizabeth Kudleros and what I realized in that book was so many people just before, or when they're on their deathbed women wish they wore more red and purple. Oh, yeah, that they wish they were more bold wish because they played small. And it's a thing. And she has interviewed thousands of people on their deathbeds. And I was like, wow. And so I think a part of you know, my mom is part of the red hats, the red hat society and they were purple all the time and red hats. So they're, they're living that. But it's a practice. You can do it at the level of the mind and draw the line like you said.
Rich Bennett 57:22
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 57:22
But I'm all about going deep. And so through meditation, you can do a similar thing and go back in meditation and review your life because time is an illusion. So we bring everything together at once. You can easily become that person on your deathbed. You're ready to die.
Rich Bennett 57:45
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 57:45
And so you go back in time to when you were first born, even first conceived and you you gain a better understanding of your life. And then you go forward decade by decade. And you go to be on your deathbed and you're looking back over your life. What are your regrets? What do you wish you had done? And it will always lead you to something different. It will always lead you to something different. And it was, it was doing that practice that helped me realize. I had to write a book.
Rich Bennett 58:26
Yeah.
Cheryl Stelte 58:26
Leave a legacy and I had gotten guidance, in other ways as well. And it was so clear. And so when we have big decisions to make, you know, what direction are we meant to go that sort of thing. You can do this exercise because your soul signed up to learn and grow. You know, you you're variant to and with that. You said you love to learn as part of why you do the podcast. So your soul, the the center of your being, the connection to the all came here for specific lessons to grow and evolve through. So when you get to that place, you can gain insight and it'll help with your decisions that you're making today.
Rich Bennett 59:12
Something else you just mentioned there regrets and I I was like this for the longest time. You know, people say, well, I have no regrets. I have no regrets.
One of the things I learned, believe it or not, from watching a interview with a
Cheryl Stelte 59:31
recipe.
Rich Bennett 59:34
He said anybody that says they know everybody's got regrets. The thing is, you need to learn your
Cheryl Stelte 59:41
from
Rich Bennett 59:42
regrets. So this. I like to ask you this question.
Cheryl Stelte 59:51
What
Rich Bennett 59:52
one regret that
Cheryl Stelte 59:53
is
Rich Bennett 59:53
you can share if I said that you actually learned
Cheryl Stelte 59:55
from
so many, so many regrets, but one of
Rich Bennett 1:00:02
And
Cheryl Stelte 1:00:03
my.
Rich Bennett 1:00:03
that's the way it should be.
Cheryl Stelte 1:00:05
I'm going to say a huge regret. Huge was that I stayed married to my first husband as long as I did. I knew I remember telling a girlfriend of mine when my daughter was two and my son was four that I knew I would be leaving my husband because I could see he was an alcoholic. But I couldn't imagine leaving like so many young women. I didn't know how I would make it and I was scared. And I stayed for six more years, until they were eight and ten. And the reason I left, I didn't know what it would look like, I didn't know how I was going to make it. I saw the damage that was being done to them. I had other effects, not that I was a perfect parent, but I was, I was absolutely more into it than he was, and I was absolutely doing my best. And it's my, it's my one big regret. And I've, you know, I've healed a lot around that, but the fact was the fact that I stayed as long as I did, because in hindsight, I could see that I would have been fine. I could see that I, I would have made it because, you know, God, the universe always provides for us, and I was always provided for.
Rich Bennett 1:01:32
Mm. All right, so now this is your opportunity.
Cheryl Stelte 1:01:36
Before
Rich Bennett 1:01:37
before my
Cheryl Stelte 1:01:37
I, question,
Rich Bennett 1:01:37
last the idea what it's going to be.
Cheryl Stelte 1:01:41
The
Rich Bennett 1:01:41
thing you would like to add.
Cheryl Stelte 1:01:44
Yes, there is, there is one thing I would really like to say, is that you are all powerful beyond what you can currently imagine. You can't imagine the power within you. And I don't mean power over, but divine power that inner knowing that true divine expression of who you are, your soul and what you came here to be. You are all powerful beyond what you can imagine, powerful beyond what you can even currently believe.
Rich Bennett 1:02:19
All right, if you listen to that one episode,
remember, if I did this with him or not, I may not have. All I have 100 different
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:31
right,
Rich Bennett 1:02:31
questions here, don't worry. I'm not going to
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:32
so
Rich Bennett 1:02:33
ask you
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:33
them.
Rich Bennett 1:02:33
all 100 of I
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:35
But
Rich Bennett 1:02:35
need you to pick a number between
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:36
two,
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one,
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:37
one
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in 100. And as I'm searching for it, tell
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:42
me,
Rich Bennett 1:02:45
good as some of my
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:46
other places,
Rich Bennett 1:02:48
because 90% of the guests
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:50
they
Rich Bennett 1:02:51
picked has aligned with what we're talking about.
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:53
okay, 67.
Rich Bennett 1:02:55
So, Okay, why
Cheryl Stelte 1:02:57
67. Good question. It's a number that came to me. I also saw 71.
Rich Bennett 1:03:03
Okay, this is perfect. 67. I'm going to look at 71
to. Okay, now we'll stick with
Cheryl Stelte 1:03:15
67.
Rich Bennett 1:03:15
67. What's a misconception? People often have about the field or industry you work in.
Cheryl Stelte 1:03:25
Oh, that it's it's who that it's not valid. Flaky.
Not they can't trust it. Spirituality is, you know, it's not based in science and the wonderful thing is it is now we've proven so much we are made of energy. So there is that misconception and I can't tell you there's there are some people who are fearful that it's not going to work for them. Fearful that sure it can work for other people that won't work for me. And so for those people I offer a money back guarantee you get three full sessions you get one third of the program. You pay a deposit and if you are not 100% satisfied, I'll refund your money.
Rich Bennett 1:04:20
You can't beat that.
Cheryl Stelte 1:04:21
Sorry because nobody ever wants their money back. They're like, whoa, it does work for me. Yeah. It helps people get in touch with a part of them that they're not necessarily aware of and even women who've been on a spiritual journey for forty fifty years they come to me and they're blown away. They're like, well, I had no idea I helped them go to the next level. So and all the way from people who've never meditated in their lives. They realize that they know how to I teach you how to move
Rich Bennett 1:04:49
energy. Yeah,
Cheryl Stelte 1:04:49
you've got to become your own energy worker. So yeah, there are a lot of misconceptions out there and I actually don't I don't like the term who I won't speak on an event speak it an event or do anything that has a word who because I don't consider myself who this is very practical. It's based in science.
Rich Bennett 1:05:11
The other thing is to when people do this, like if somebody comes to see you or anybody that does what you're doing, the anxiety, the depression is just going to be lifted. It's, it's truly like being like having a ton of bricks lifted off your shoulders. People don't realize the relief that they're going to have after this.
Cheryl Stelte 1:05:39
That's right. And they can't really imagine the result. What they want is they want clarity. see me there, they're stuck, they're confused, they're uncertain, they don't know their path forward because nothing for them has worked. And then they get that clarity and the level of joy and the life changes, you can't imagine it because you've never been there before.
Rich Bennett 1:06:05
Well, sure. I want to thank you so much. It has been an honor and I cannot wait to have you back on again. I got I got ideas running through my brain. That's kind of skitt. I'm, look, I'm trolling my finger like there's a hamster on a wheel inside of my head. And I'm going to, I'm going to tell you about them when we're done here. But thank you so much, Cheryl.
Cheryl Stelte 1:06:28
Oh, thank you. This is this has just been such an honor and I love our connection and what we going on. And so thank you so much, Rich, really,
Rich Bennett 1:06:38
it's been an honor. Thanks.
Rich Bennett 1:06:40
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