Success can hide an extraordinary amount of pain. Former professional Muay Thai fighter Hannah Dalby appeared unstoppable while privately battling grief, methamphetamine addiction, abusive relationships, overtraining, and emotional exhaustion.
In this episode of Conversations with Rich Bennett, Hannah reveals how losing her boyfriend at 18 created a pattern of working harder, achieving more, and numbing everything she did not know how to process. She went on to build businesses, lead sales teams, buy homes, and become a champion fighter, but the life beneath those accomplishments was falling apart.
Today, Hannah is a human integration specialist and founder of The Jungle on Australia’s Sunshine Coast.
You will hear:
- How Hannah rebuilt her life after addiction and financial loss
- Why high performance can become a form of emotional avoidance
- What Human Integration means
- How suppressed parts of ourselves influence leadership and relationships
- Why gradual integration can create more lasting change than an intense retreat
Hannah also discusses nutrition, hormones, fascia release, emotional stress, and the importance of helping people reclaim their own inner authority.
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00:00 - Opening
03:02 - Hannah Starts Her First Business at 14
03:49 - Moving to Denmark at 16
04:33 - A Devastating Loss at 18
05:03 - Using Work and Drugs to Avoid Grief
06:26 - Lessons from Door-to-Door Sales
09:26 - Car Sales and Buying Her First Home
11:47 - Entering the Marketing Industry
12:38 - Discovering Muay Thai
15:01 - Moving Nine Hours Away to Train
18:20 - Choosing Waterfalls, Rainforest and Fighting
21:05 - Launching Her Marketing Business
21:45 - The Double Life Behind Her Success
23:10 - Methamphetamine, ADHD and Emotional Avoidance
25:26 - How Self-Defense Training Saved Her
27:46 - Financial Abuse and Losing Everything
30:04 - Nearly Moving to the United States
32:38 - Getting Clean and Starting Again
33:48 - Returning to Muay Thai
34:35 - Becoming a Professional Fighter
35:53 - The Physical Cost of Making Weight
36:45 - Managing Business, Recovery and Fighting
37:19 - The Decision to Leave Fighting
38:46 - Sponsor: Four Seasons Landscape and Construction
40:33 - What Is a Human Integration Specialist?
42:00 - Integrating Suppressed Parts of Ourselves
45:59 - The Development of Human Integration
48:07 - Problems in Coaching and Mental Health
49:38 - Body Awareness and Personal Sovereignty
51:18 - The Meaning Behind The Jungle
53:51 - Why Hannah Does Not Offer Retreats
55:20 - Who Human Integration Helps
57:38 - Services Available Through The Jungle
58:48 - Aerial Yoga and Fascia Release
01:00:23 - Under-Eating, Hormones and Metabolism
01:03:11 - Eating More to Restore the Body
01:04:26 - Emotional Stress and Weight
01:06:07 - Why Hannah Started a Podcast
01:06:41 - Telling Her Parents the Truth
01:07:55 - Rich on the Power of Sharing Your Story
01:09:43 - Hannah’s Podcast and Perfectionism
01:13:03 - Where to Find Hannah Dalby
01:13:31 - Hannah Chooses Her Final Question
01:14:27 - Appreciating Connection and Community
01:15:39 - Closing Thoughts
Wendy & Rich 0:01
Coming to you from the Freedom Federal Credit Union Studios, Hartford County Living presents, Conversations with Rich Bennett. I love the time.
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Rich Bennett 0:27
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Hannah Dalby 1:09
Well, I have the heater on. So I'm nice and warm.
Rich Bennett 1:11
Okay.
I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here.
Hannah Dalby 1:29
I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here.
Rich Bennett 1:37
I'm glad that she's here.
Hannah Dalby 1:40
I'm glad that she's here.
Rich Bennett 1:42
I'm
glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's
Hannah Dalby 1:48
glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here.
Rich Bennett 1:51
here. I'm
Hannah Dalby 1:52
I'm glad that she's here.
Rich Bennett 2:10
I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here.
I'm glad that she's here.
I'm glad that she's here. I'm glad that she's here.
And I was kind of shocked at your age, but then when you told me how old you were when you first started working, it still doesn't add up to me.
Hannah Dalby 2:56
[Laughter]
Okay.
Rich Bennett 3:00
Go ahead and take us
Hannah Dalby 3:01
So
Rich Bennett 3:01
there.
Hannah Dalby 3:02
look, I was 14 when I started my first business. It was actually. Do you remember the like 90's raves and everyone used to wear fat pants and the skirts and the G, it is?
Rich Bennett 3:11
Oh, yeah. The MC Hammer
Hannah Dalby 3:14
Yeah, the MC Hammer pants. So I had a business
Rich Bennett 3:16
pants.
Hannah Dalby 3:16
making those that was my first business, which I had for a few years. here.
Rich Bennett 3:20
Get out of
So the parachute pants that I wore back then may have been made by
Hannah Dalby 3:27
Well,
Rich Bennett 3:27
you.
Hannah Dalby 3:28
I don't know if I got into the US. I wasn't quite good at exporting, but.
Wow. So that was my first business. I was obviously like in that scene, partying way too young. My dad was like, get out of the country. He sent me over to Denmark for a year to. Become a little bit more worldly and realize that.
Rich Bennett 3:49
At 14.
Hannah Dalby 3:50
Sixteen. Sixteen. My seat.
Rich Bennett 3:51
Oh, 16
Hannah Dalby 3:52
It
Rich Bennett 3:52
now. Okay.
Hannah Dalby 3:52
was a week after my 16th birthday. He's like, you know, put me on playing. Went to Denmark
Rich Bennett 3:57
years.
Hannah Dalby 3:57
for four
Rich Bennett 3:58
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 3:59
Um, the purpose was to like learn that like he wouldn't be able to speak the language or I wouldn't be able to just do the same thing. Um, I did exactly the same thing. But, you know, I learned that when I came home, the 300 friends that I thought that I had were not necessarily my friends,
Rich Bennett 4:14
Right.
Hannah Dalby 4:15
you know, our party people. So I went back to finish school at his, you know, demand essentially to go, look, I can do what you're going to do. But I'm going to choose not to. So I got my levels that are higher, higher than he got. So I was like, well, you know, a beat you. So now that's fine.
Rich Bennett 4:32
Oh, wow.
Hannah Dalby 4:33
You know, I could have been a doctor. I could have been a lawyer. I was like, now I'm going to, I'm going to go do what I want to do. So, I went, I went to job in sales. I did do it or sales. Um, had a boyfriend that died in a car accident when I was 18.
Rich Bennett 4:46
Jesus.
Hannah Dalby 4:46
Uh, so that was like the big, like spanner in all of the works, right, like that was like big changes, like, forks in the road.
Rich Bennett 4:55
Yeah. Were you in the car with him?
Hannah Dalby 4:58
No, it wasn't. We had an argument. You went to his friend's place.
Rich Bennett 5:02
Oh God.
Hannah Dalby 5:03
Yeah. Uhm. So that was like, that could use some in-ances as I tell the rest of the story, because I was like already a party girl. I was taking lots of drugs, I was taking lots of
Rich Bennett 5:12
Right.
Hannah Dalby 5:12
dumb stuff. That was like the catalyst for like, now I can't deal with any of my emotions. No one taught me how to process any of that. No one taught me how to process a grief. So it was like, what what else are you gonna do? You're gonna go to work. So I like the next thing that I did was the catalyst for the like, the patent for the rest of my life. I don't know how to process. I'll work really hard. I'll numb, you know, I'll make myself look like I'm winning because I don't want to deal with what's going on in here.
Rich Bennett 5:38
Right.
Hannah Dalby 5:39
Uhm, so I ended up moving state. I left my family. I packed up. I moved to where I am now. Uhm, and had my own office. So I was 18. I was like running sales teams and doing all of this. When I looked back at you, now I'm like, who gave me an office? Who gave me like, this is insane, who gave me a sales office and said, yeah, go like, run the sales team. And I remember like sitting in the boardroom, like, group interviewing these 30-year-olds. Like it just makes no sense. Like the whole thing makes no sense when you look at it.
Rich Bennett 6:11
Are you having no training?
Hannah Dalby 6:13
Oh, no, I think very well it is. So I was like, I started it in sales. I did very well. I got promoted very fast.
Rich Bennett 6:19
Right, but, but I mean you didn't go to school for any of that right? Wow. That's amazing.
Hannah Dalby 6:26
Yeah. So I started doing that. So I guess they like, I mean, that gave me some very amazing life skills. Like door-to-door
Rich Bennett 6:34
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 6:34
sales is like, you can deal with 50 to 80 rejections a day, and still have a positive attitude. You're learning some stuff, you know?
Rich Bennett 6:42
Yeah, you are.
Hannah Dalby 6:45
Yeah. And you know, running that team... It's pretty crazy because I said to my manager, like, I'm going to quit. And he's like, what do you want? And I was like, I want to move to Queensland on my own office. He was like, okay, so I got that. If
Rich Bennett 7:00
you don't mind me asking, what were you selling?
Hannah Dalby 7:01
Charity.
Rich Bennett 7:04
Huh?
Hannah Dalby 7:04
Charity. So it was like signing up people to monthly donations to charities.
Rich Bennett 7:09
Really?
Hannah Dalby 7:10
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 7:12
Oh, okay. Wow. That's... at least you... I was gonna say, for something like that, I would think it's easy to sell because you believe in what you're selling.
Hannah Dalby 7:25
Exactly that.
Rich Bennett 7:26
If it's a legit
Hannah Dalby 7:27
Yeah,
Rich Bennett 7:27
charity,
Hannah Dalby 7:28
yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly that. And the
Rich Bennett 7:29
wow.
Hannah Dalby 7:30
particular company vetted them really well, so we made
Rich Bennett 7:33
Right.
Hannah Dalby 7:33
sure that more than 80% of the money was going to the charity, because there's obviously some that will exist today where we
Rich Bennett 7:39
Right.
Hannah Dalby 7:39
all... ...less than 1% of the money gets there. So I mean, I felt really good about it. We were doing good stuff.
Rich Bennett 7:46
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 7:47
When I was there, though, there's a rule in the state that I currently live in where charities can book out weeks of the year. And if they've booked it, no one else can go door to door. And the next year after I had that office, they had booked out 25 weeks of the year. So now I couldn't run my team for half the year. So I had choices, right. I had to now learn how to sell
Rich Bennett 8:09
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 8:09
something else. It was like, we're going to go into electricity. We're going to go into, you know, satellite, cable TV. We're going to go into something else. And my team didn't want to do it. They're like, we're not selling this crap.
Rich Bennett 8:21
You
Hannah Dalby 8:22
know.
Rich Bennett 8:24
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 8:25
It'll play out in this like strange way. My manager, who actually had sent me up there in the first place, he rings me up and he goes, fly back down here. I'm going to teach you how to do the same thing for charities, but inside the shopping centers. It's like event sales. We call it. So
Rich Bennett 8:42
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 8:42
I fly down there and he's got no one in his office. There's like three people there. And I spend three weeks building his office back up to 25 people. And I fly back home and my team's done. They're like, we left. There's nothing to do. See you later. So I've like saved his hours, lost my office. So I just, I just like quit. Like I said, he wouldn't let me have, like, I just leave me alone, just like leave me alone for a few weeks. I ended up leaving that and I ended up eight or nine hours north where my boyfriend that had passed away like he had been staying at for the few months before he passed away. His band had lived there.
Rich Bennett 9:21
Oh, he played in
Hannah Dalby 9:22
band. He
Rich Bennett 9:22
a
Hannah Dalby 9:22
played in a band, yeah.
Rich Bennett 9:24
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 9:24
So I
Rich Bennett 9:26
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 9:26
drove there and I was like, I'm just going to go hang out with those guys for a little while. I partied for the summer and I ran out of money at some stage and thought, oh, well, I'd better get a job. I'm here. So I ended up putting a job selling cars. I went to their rented house and found out that I had been blacklisted for renting through the whole country from like,
Rich Bennett 9:47
keep the hell
Hannah Dalby 9:48
here.
Rich Bennett 9:48
out of I'm sorry, blacklisted for what?
Hannah Dalby 9:52
Well, wrenching a house, I couldn't rent a house. There was like a black mark against my name because the unit, the first, you know, I ever lease when I first moved out of home. I got kicked out of it because my friends would come over in the middle of the night and were really loud and, like, so, I don't just had no idea.
Rich Bennett 10:09
Wow.
What?
Hannah Dalby 10:25
That's what you're talking about. What? What? What? Yeah.
Rich Bennett 10:28
Today, I'm okay.
Hannah Dalby 10:29
I got my job, so I did really, really well at car sales. I was like beating all the boys in there, so I got my manager to write me a verse saying, 'She's off probation because she's doing so well. So the bank gave me a loan and I bought my first house.
Rich Bennett 10:44
Wow,
Hannah Dalby 10:45
it was 20, 20 years old.
Rich Bennett 10:49
That's a beast.
Hannah Dalby 10:51
Now, get a remember, at this same time, I'm still taking a lot of drugs underneath of it. I'm like, not really sleeping, like, you know, smoking.
Rich Bennett 11:01
But it wasn't showing,
Hannah Dalby 11:02
it?
Rich Bennett 11:02
was
Hannah Dalby 11:02
No.
Rich Bennett 11:04
Yeah, okay.
Hannah Dalby 11:06
So I did that. The boys ran me out of that job. They were like, you know, I was doing really. I was selling all the land cruises, all the high lots, like, they didn't like it. I got run out of that job by the team, which whatever. I ended up spending a couple of years as a carpenter's trade assistant doing that traffic control, driving frontend loaders on a quarry. I made a intention was I was going to go to the mines. I was like, screw that. I'm going to go to the mines. But by the time I got into a loader, I realized that I couldn't spend 12 hours a day by myself in a machine. That was not good.
Rich Bennett 11:43
right,
Hannah Dalby 11:43
So I was like, don't do this either.
Rich Bennett 11:47
It's a big difference of doing sale.
Hannah Dalby 11:49
Yeah.
So then I get a job selling marketing. So with the company, the head company that owns the yellow pages or selling yellow pages ads. Websites social media, Google ads when that first ever came out.
Rich Bennett 12:07
For those of you listening, you
Hannah Dalby 12:10
people,
Rich Bennett 12:10
younger yellow pages was a big, thick book. That's where you had to get phone numbers from.
Or some people used them to put on their chair so they can see up above the
Hannah Dalby 12:22
That's
Rich Bennett 12:22
steering.
Hannah Dalby 12:23
true. It happened. So when I started right, the book was really thick and I was in
Rich Bennett 12:28
Uh
Hannah Dalby 12:28
there
Rich Bennett 12:29
huh.
Hannah Dalby 12:29
during the transition of a starting to fade out. So I watched as the years went by as it got smaller.
Rich Bennett 12:35
Got shranked.
Hannah Dalby 12:36
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 12:36
Yup. Wow.
Hannah Dalby 12:38
So I'm doing that by this time I'm now fighting a Moitai fighting. I'm in this gym. Um,
Rich Bennett 12:45
well, actually, what drew you into that to the Moitai? The Moitai fighting.
Hannah Dalby 12:51
So, my, one of my friends friends was having a fight so we all went out that night to watch him fight. And there was a guy standing next to me in the crowd and he was like, Hey man, like I'm starting a gym on Monday. You should come. And I was like, Okay. So I just like rocked up on Monday and that was kind of it. Like I was there every day. I trained every day for.
Rich Bennett 13:11
You fell in
Hannah Dalby 13:11
it.
Rich Bennett 13:11
love with
Hannah Dalby 13:12
Yeah. Yeah.
Rich Bennett 13:13
Wow. Alright, but at this time, and I'm sorry, you're interrupted, but at this time when you started the, the Moitai, were you still taking drugs and everything and party
Hannah Dalby 13:23
I wasn't bloody. So none of it was really partying. It was just like, almost like a self medication kind of situation. I mean, I
Rich Bennett 13:30
it?
Hannah Dalby 13:30
probably
Rich Bennett 13:31
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 13:31
was part. By the time I had this job, the, the party had really dimmed down and it was just, well, I can stay up all night and renovate my house. And I can, you know, just get all of this stuff done. So no one really knew about it. I mean, the boyfriends and I had at the time, they probably knew about it. There was people that I'd hang out with at night time.
Rich Bennett 13:51
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 13:52
But for the most part, no, for the most part, it was like, this is what I'm doing. And no one really, so
Rich Bennett 13:59
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 13:59
I was like, you know, I was number one salesperson in the country in that job. And maybe that was
Rich Bennett 14:05
of
Hannah Dalby 14:05
part
Rich Bennett 14:05
it. For the marketing.
Hannah Dalby 14:06
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 14:08
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 14:08
Yeah. So I was doing that. My manager hated it because I would like get up and like, just do all of this work and I'd leave at three o'clock and then go do my run and go to the gym and go do whatever. And he hated it because he would work to 10 o'clock at night trying to get his thing done. Everyone worked really hard and I had just figured out this way to, I can just do both things. Right? Like we can do both things I can be an athlete and I can have this business and I'm, you know, like, you know,
Rich Bennett 14:36
You
Hannah Dalby 14:36
working
Rich Bennett 14:36
are working smarter.
Hannah Dalby 14:37
Yeah. And I got shunned for it. So they didn't trust me to, you know, be working on my own because I just go to training. I'm like, but I'm number one in the country. Like, what's your problem?
Rich Bennett 14:50
God, they're lost.
Hannah Dalby 14:51
Yeah, so, uhm, what ended up happening was my gym. They got patched over by this other gym. And they, 'cause I wanted to fight I was like, 'I'm ready to fight, let's go,let's go, let's go'.
Rich Bennett 15:01
Right.
Hannah Dalby 15:01
And then this other gym comes in and they're like, they're very traditional, you have to like, do gradings and get armbands and like, make it to your, it's like, you know, black belt and karate but it's black armbands in more time. And so he said, 'No one's fighting until they get that black armbands.' And I'm like, 'Well, what this is ridiculous.' So I ended up deciding that I would move to where his gym was nine hours away. And then I would be able to do it faster. So I secretly bought another house, right next to his gym, nine hours away.
Rich Bennett 15:36
So now you own two
Hannah Dalby 15:37
houses. Now I own two houses. I lied to my job but said, I'm going on holidays for two weeks. I went down, found a house, bought it, waited for settlement. And then I was sitting there, like, I'd already got another job. I was being trained to be a house real estate sales person. So I'm sitting in the training for the real estate sales. And then the house goes unconditional. So I bring up my boss and I say, I'm never coming back. So what's
Rich Bennett 16:04
that
Hannah Dalby 16:04
You
Rich Bennett 16:04
mean, goes on conditional,
Hannah Dalby 16:05
know when you buy a house and you've got to wait for finance, and there's like 20 or 30
Rich Bennett 16:09
yeah.
Hannah Dalby 16:09
settlement period before it's actually like you now own it.
Rich Bennett 16:13
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 16:13
Yeah. So I don't know how that works over there, but when we buy a place, there's like a, there's a settlement period where all the paperwork gets down the lawyer's sign off on things, finance gets approved, all of that kind of stuff, like happen.
Rich Bennett 16:23
Right.
Hannah Dalby 16:23
And once all of that is done, then the paperwork gets signed that it's unconditional, which means we, like, all you have is one more piece of paper to sign and you now own the house. So I signed to the contract, but now we had to wait for all of this stuff to go through. So I was in the training, getting ready to start this other job. I told my boss I was on holidays, to the banks that I was buying this house as a investment property. And then I made a deal with them that said, I'm going to move in before the settlement. And I'll pay you rent because I need somebody to be while I start this place. So I did this bargain deal. So I'd already moved into the house that I was going to buy. I hadn't owned it yet, but I was paying them rent so I could start this new job and be down there. And then it goes unconditional. And I'm in this room, like doing this training and I ring my boss. And I'm like, I'm never coming back like screw you because I was going to, I was going to stay in the job and I said, I'm going to stay in the job. I'm going to go work from this location. No one else wants that suburb. It's like in middle of
Rich Bennett 17:22
Right.
Hannah Dalby 17:22
nowhere. And he was like, no, no, no, I don't trust you that you won't just be a training all day. And I was like, I'm number one of the countries. What is it? So anyway, so I was like screw you so
Rich Bennett 17:32
wow,
Hannah Dalby 17:34
So I do this. And I move into this place. And now I've got this like amazing gym around the corner from my house. So I can like hurry up and get to my black on band so I can fight. And
Rich Bennett 17:45
right.
Hannah Dalby 17:45
I started this job. And I said to them when I started, like I was going to do their marketing and do their real estate sales. That was the purpose of it. And I said the rule is I need to leave at like 4.35 o'clock cause I'm, I'm going to go to training like this is part of my life. Everyone else works to 9 or 10 o'clock. And I said, just trust me. I'll get the job done. I'll get the job done. I'm going to leave at 4.35 o'clock. So they, they agreed to it. And every time I would leave, I would get guilt tripped everyone would make me feel bad about it. And so then I would like, it was hard to leave, so then I'd be late training. And then they make me feel bad about it.
Rich Bennett 18:19
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 18:20
So at one day, I remember waking up. And I went out. I was living, I'd like discovered waterfalls and rain forest and all this beautiful land that was living around me. And I was like, this is what life is for. So
Rich Bennett 18:34
probably helped with your mental health as well with all the bullshit you were
Hannah Dalby 18:38
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 18:38
going.
Hannah Dalby 18:39
Yeah. So I woke up. I remember waking up on Friday morning going, I don't think I should go to work ever again.
Rich Bennett 18:48
I've
Hannah Dalby 18:49
had enough of this. There is waterfalls out there. There is rain forest out there. I want to be a fighter. I don't think I should go to work. So I just didn't go to work that and call them. I didn't rate. I just like, I'm done. So I've got two mortgages. I ring my dad. And I'm like, I've decided I'm never going to go back to work again. He's like, what?
Rich Bennett 19:10
Did he know you had two houses?
Hannah Dalby 19:12
Yeah. He was busy and he's like, why are you buying another one? Like you can't. I'm like, yeah. You're like 23 or 24 at this point. You know.
Rich Bennett 19:24
Cheese.
Hannah Dalby 19:26
Yeah. I mean, I mean, I mean, I did. Through equity, right? I can renovate it in my whole
Rich Bennett 19:30
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 19:30
house all by myself for four years, three or four years. And like made it amazing. I had a lot of equity. So I just like, rang up there, like sure you can have another house. Like. So, you know, it wouldn't work. Had I not done some of the next decisions?
Rich Bennett 19:46
How come you haven't written a book yet?
Hannah Dalby 19:49
Time.
Rich Bennett 19:53
Go go sit by the waterfalls in the rain forest. Right.
Hannah Dalby 19:57
gosh. Reach out to
Rich Bennett 19:58
Oh my
Hannah Dalby 19:58
a staff bar, I'm doing stuff. [laughs]
Rich Bennett 20:01
But that's amazing. And then we haven't even gotten into the business yet. But also you so you leave this company Because you're surrounded by just beauty everywhere But you were still training because you wanted that black
Hannah Dalby 20:15
band
Rich Bennett 20:15
armed
Hannah Dalby 20:15
Yeah, and so when I get to this gym there like you've got to do Crying you've got to do to do to do to do kudos. I'm like 19 hours a week at this place by the time Jesus
Rich Bennett 20:24
Yeah
Hannah Dalby 20:27
Yeah, I mean so in that time. I was like I got a one Queensland title and Australian title in kudo Which is this strange Japanese mixed martial arts We like wear a helmet and you don't have any rules you can headbutt and stuff like that um So yeah Yeah
Rich Bennett 20:46
The god you're wearing the helmet is just a little ringing inside
Hannah Dalby 20:49
head. Yeah
Rich Bennett 20:49
your That's all
Hannah Dalby 20:50
right
Rich Bennett 20:53
Ha ha ha ha Oh God Say
All right, so when you do when was your first profession in mouitai?
Hannah Dalby 21:02
So not for years later not for years in
Rich Bennett 21:04
Oh,
Hannah Dalby 21:04
yeah,
Rich Bennett 21:05
wow.
Hannah Dalby 21:05
yeah, yeah, yeah, so And what happened was I so I I start I quit that job by Monday morning. I've started this marketing business. I thought I could sell This marketing stuff, right and Oh
Rich Bennett 21:18
you started your own business
Hannah Dalby 21:19
Yeah
Rich Bennett 21:20
Okay,
Hannah Dalby 21:21
Yeah, yeah, so what else working selling yellow pages and they were doing google ads and facebook ads and stuff like
Rich Bennett 21:26
right
Hannah Dalby 21:26
this They did a really bad job of it and I had an ethical problem with it So I would learn how to do it and I would go fix up all my accounts myself and make them work well yeah Sorry, you know, I worked double amount of time for what I was doing and I was like well, I can do that I'll just do that. I'll just sell marketing and I'll do the marketing So this
Rich Bennett 21:45
Damn
Hannah Dalby 21:45
Friday I quit Monday. I have this business registered. I've ordered a website. I've got a logo Just done all this over the weekend Right I sign up my gym is my first client And then I sign up one of my gym trainers who has an IT business as my first client and I spend You know the next 12 months like hustling like running around hustling So this is now the marketing business which runs for 10 years post this um Yeah, and now remember i'm still heavily in drugs and is probably getting worse and worse and worse Um, I then end up in lots of domestic violence relationships through this time I had um Yeah, so I'm like daytime running a business going to training nighttime buy keys Really bad man all of this kind of like double life um
Which ended up having me like held hostage in my house by naive being smashed on my throat You know about being smashed on a coffee table by my throat. I got a shot at one time like so all of this stuff is going on underneath So daytime business suit Athlete night time like crazy crazy stuff is going on it's like complete double life
Rich Bennett 22:56
They home Holy shit
Okay, um wow Oh
I'm just so blown away and I don't even know if I asked you this but with the drugs What was your what was the main drug that you were using
Hannah Dalby 23:10
time
Rich Bennett 23:10
at
Hannah Dalby 23:10
ice
Rich Bennett 23:10
the
What is that cooking?
Hannah Dalby 23:13
No it's method of means
Rich Bennett 23:15
I knew that I was testing you
Hannah Dalby 23:18
Yeah, so it's just smoking it and it was um You know part i have i have ADHD so it's part of it is like I can have one thought this is amazing. I can get all this stuff.
Rich Bennett 23:29
Yeah,
Hannah Dalby 23:29
It's amazing um Which you know part of it what part of it was that like I could do so much in my life But so much it was also avoiding my emotions because I didn't know how
Rich Bennett 23:39
it
Hannah Dalby 23:39
to
Rich Bennett 23:39
right
Hannah Dalby 23:39
do you know how to deal with them like just let's shovel this down And it became this tool to get through life that it just came with the wrong people And then
Rich Bennett 23:48
Yeah,
Hannah Dalby 23:48
you know, I wanted connection. I didn't know how to have it So then I'd have this connection with these men that were You know, I I was a fierce fighting
independent woman. So when they got challenged You know, this is how it would end up Ah
Rich Bennett 24:07
Did you actually kick their ass?
Hannah Dalby 24:09
So one time there was one time
Rich Bennett 24:11
Um
Hannah Dalby 24:11
okay When I uh and I would actually been drinking quite a lot and there was they were trying to take my car Like there was like the guy I was seeing in his mate and I was trying to take my car And I would have no bar of it And it just somehow ended up in a big ral and I actually did leave them really me. I don't really remember it. I just got photos and I was like oops, see
Rich Bennett 24:38
Imagine if you were soobur it probably would you probably would have done a lot worse?
Hannah Dalby 24:42
Well, I don't know about that because I think in the sober state, because I've been attacked by a different one before it in the sober state, I like wangled my way to not end up in the violence. I kind of like didn't fight
Rich Bennett 24:55
Okay
Hannah Dalby 24:55
back and was like a little bit smarter about it in like I can stop myself from getting to her and actually allowed myself to get a little bit hurt to make him feel like he could win so I could just get him out of the house. But in the drunken state, I was like, you want to mess with me? Like, you
Rich Bennett 25:11
miss? You messed with the wrong person?
Hannah Dalby 25:13
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 25:14
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 25:14
So I think that,
Rich Bennett 25:15
Well, I guess with your training too,
Hannah Dalby 25:17
I'm adding.
Rich Bennett 25:17
especially when you're sober, you know, you can only go so far because you could do a lot more damage.
Hannah Dalby 25:23
Yeah. Yeah.
Rich Bennett 25:25
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 25:26
So, but it was, it's incredible though, right? So like if you've ever thought about doing self-defense training and like does it actually work? The, you know, the karate stuff, the first belt that you learn is like if someone grabs your shoulders, how to take the shoulders off and attack. And so this guy has like pushed me against a wall and that's the thing that I do without even thinking is like the white belt training comes out. And I'm like, detaches arms and 13 beat combo to his face. And it's like the training works when you're like
Rich Bennett 25:58
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 25:58
you've lost everything. So it's incredible like it would have saved my life.
Rich Bennett 26:04
People don't understand and I, I've mentioned this to some people. I don't think I ever said it on the podcast. But with my marine core training,
Hannah Dalby 26:14
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 26:14
it's, it stays with you.
Hannah Dalby 26:17
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 26:18
And that's why a lot of times you'll see videos and I have to laugh like veteran could be in his 80s and beat the living hell out of somebody. It's like it just, it flashes to what you learned. And sometimes you don't even realize you're doing it, you know, but wow, that's a crazy. So all right, with the moui toy, the moui toy, see this is hard because it rhymes too easily. The Moui tie fighting. So when you got the black being started fighting professionally, how long were you doing that?
Hannah Dalby 26:54
I
Rich Bennett 26:55
Oh,
Hannah Dalby 26:55
still
Rich Bennett 26:55
go
Hannah Dalby 26:55
didn't.
Rich Bennett 26:55
ahead.
Hannah Dalby 26:55
I still, I,
Rich Bennett 26:57
Oh.
Hannah Dalby 26:57
I, so I'm in. Right. I'm in.
Rich Bennett 26:58
You kicked his ass. You weren't fighting
Hannah Dalby 27:00
shit.
Rich Bennett 27:00
professionally.
Hannah Dalby 27:01
What am saying to my trainer?
Rich Bennett 27:03
Oh
Hannah Dalby 27:03
Let me in. So I'm about, I've like pushed myself really hard, I'm about to get my, I'm like I'm ready to do my black. He goes, you're not allowed to do your grading for that until your original coach gets his from back up in the other town.
Rich Bennett 27:17
Come on.
Hannah Dalby 27:20
So I'm like, because I was, I was ready and I was probably being pretty good and I was like, you know, not, not treating myself that badly in that time. And I was like, I did it. I'm ready. Let's go and he helped me back for this other sick. I had to wait another six months in that six months. I broke my foot. I ended up like this is where all of the domestic violence stuff. So him saying no. And then all of these, I was like, we'll screw it.
Rich Bennett 27:45
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 27:46
So I ended up not staying at that gym this time. I ended up dating someone who was taking all of my money. There was like every week. There was a story of this guy's going to come and kill me. I need five grand and eat this. So like financial abuse for a year. I
Rich Bennett 28:04
in
Hannah Dalby 28:04
end up losing all of my properties. They get repossessed by the banks.
Rich Bennett 28:09
Oh, my God.
Hannah Dalby 28:10
It happens. Like I was at home under I'd been ignoring with mail. I was like I know this is happening. But I don't can't
Rich Bennett 28:16
Right.
Hannah Dalby 28:17
deal with it until I get this guy out of my life. So I get this guy out of my life because he shoots at me. And then it's like, okay, this is done. I'm going to die. So I get him out of my life. And then I start opening the mail. Oh, your houses are going to be repossessed. And I was like, Oh, shit. I bring this deck like consultant, I'm like, help me help me help me. But the banks were so pissed off because you're going to remember in the story, when I first bought the second house, I told them it was an investment property and that I was living at the first one. So there'd been nothing on the door of the first one for like six months looking for me. And I was living in this one. So there was so angry by the time that they found where I was. They rocked up with a removable truck and a sheriff and we're like, get out.
Rich Bennett 28:58
Wow.
Wow. Holy shit.
Hannah Dalby 29:04
Don't get the sand, people.
Rich Bennett 29:11
Damn.
It's in all honesty with everything you were doing, the lack of sleep. It's amazing. You're still walking today.
Hannah Dalby 29:23
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 29:25
Yeah. And ended domestic violence. I mean, it just, wow. But you had the fort, you had the fortitude to just keep going and
Hannah Dalby 29:33
stop.
Rich Bennett 29:33
not
Hannah Dalby 29:34
I just didn't stop. I was like, Oh, well, like, so I remember the day when they came. And I thought it was hilarious because I was I would sing that going, I really want to get out of this house. But you know, I really don't wanna pack my stuff 'cause I've got a lot of stuff now. I've just accumulated so
Rich Bennett 29:50
right.
Hannah Dalby 29:50
much stuff. And so I'm watching these removalists pack my things for me that I haven't paid for, and I'm like, 'Huh', ha ha ha! I guess I kind of got what I asked for, didn't I? And...
Rich Bennett 30:04
wow!
Hannah Dalby 30:04
A year before that, my dad had bought these units in the town that I was living in, and I had been renovating. So on top of this, I'm now renovating my dad's units and project managing the top thing. Right? Just like, it was an office in those units. So I could do my marketing stuff, or I'm painting the walls and building bathrooms and doing all this stuff for his units. So I like, they... they like, you gotta get out. So I just like, drove to one of those units and I was like, 'Oh, guess I'll just stay here for a while then, until I saw this out!' And dad is furious, like, because I'm laughing. I'm like, 'Isn't this funny? I wanted to get out!' And they like, packed a pool of mine. So sitting there, it's these, like, sheriff-enlisted removalists. Like, don't break that! Like, wrap it properly if you're going to be here and take my stuff. You're going to do it well.
So all my stuff goes into storage. I'm now living in this unit. And I actually nearly moved to America. I was like, 'Screw this! I'm moving to the U. S.' And so I, I've got visas. I've got travel visa for three months. I've got flights for my dogs. I've got flights for myself. I've got a rental property in Tampa Bay.
Rich Bennett 31:12
Oh damn!
Hannah Dalby 31:12
I put deposits on... so I had... oh there's a package thing. I put deposits on the flights and my dog's flights. Now, I was going to sell everything that I had in the... I got storage units that had come from my house to pay for it. And this is the
Rich Bennett 31:28
Right.
Hannah Dalby 31:28
stupid thing. My plan was, 'I'll just get there. I'll probably meet someone in customs. I'll do some business deal. I'll be fine.' I'll figure it out. Like, that's the confidence that I had in myself. And...
Rich Bennett 31:39
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 31:39
the removalist had stolen heaps of my stuff. So I went to go and sell, like, t expensive bed, the expensive, all of the stuff. And it had been stolen. And so I didn't... it was all insured, so I didn't insurance claim on it. And I was like, 'Cool. I was going to get $10 or $20 grand for insurance to, you know, pay for the thing.'
Rich Bennett 31:57
Right.
Hannah Dalby 31:57
And the woman on the insurance call... I was like, 'I need it by this day. I've got to get on these flights.' And it's very likely, if I think about it now, that I was being a little bit dramatic and bitchy and a pain in the way I could
Rich Bennett 32:09
Right.
Hannah Dalby 32:09
deal with. In that moment, she was being a pain in the us to deal with. And I remember it very clearly. Like, 'I need it by this day.' And her kind of being like, 'Well, you may or may not.' And it landed two days later. So I just like, lost the flights. I've sold everything that I owned. Flights are gone. Dogs flights are gone. So I just didn't get on the plane. And now I'm sitting in this empty house.
Rich Bennett 32:34
Damn.
Hannah Dalby 32:38
And so, I was like, 'Okay, you've got to start again.' So I met a guy, not long after that. He was in the same position as me, ran businesses, owned houses, which was just kind of in this drug fuel world. We met, we decided to get out of the world together, we got clean. I went back to my
Rich Bennett 32:56
Good.
Hannah Dalby 32:57
hometown for a little while. No one would really take care of me there. Like, my mum couldn't take me, my dad couldn't take me. There was nowhere for me to really go. So I just stayed with a friend for three months. And then rebranded my business. So I rebranded, got myself a place. And then I built my marketing business back up from my home town again for the next 12 or 18 months. And in that time, did very very well. I'm now making 25 grand a month, you know, having, I've got staff, I've got all this stuff going on. I did very very well. I just didn't want to be in that town. The boyfriend that had that, you know, we'd originally gotten clean together. I wanted to go back up there. So I moved back up to Queensland. And it was harder than I thought because I had this big business in this state. And when I moved, I kind of had to really start again. People didn't really follow,
Rich Bennett 33:48
I
Hannah Dalby 33:48
follow me up there. So I kind of rebuilt again up there. I was decided to go back to training. So I'd been training down there, but I wasn't really fighting. I was just kind of rocking up to training. I found a little gym down the road from where I was living. And this guy just happened to be the father of one of the best fighters in Australia. And so he was really excited. That I had rocked up, he's like, oh, I'm going to have my next fighter. And so I was okay. Like, let's do this. Let's actually take this seriously now, but he was a drunk, so he would rock up to my firing's drinking drunk and all of this kind of stuff would go on. I ended up finding this other gym not long after I, I land there, and he's like, I'll put you in the ring in two months. And that's when I finally started professionally fighting because I've done so many years of training. He's like, he's got the golden guppas. It's
Rich Bennett 34:35
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 34:35
just rocked up ready to go. So that was it, like,
Rich Bennett 34:40
Cheers.
Hannah Dalby 34:40
all of these years later. And so he, like, I rocked up there, and then I just started fighting constantly. And then I think one on my, I won all of my fights, they sent me pro, um, straight away. I won my first pro fight. We've got a Queensland tarot belt. So I ended up doing very, very well, um, until I did too well, and he really didn't want me to be winning so much. He wanted to humble me. And so the support kind of started disappearing.Um , there was a yeah,
Rich Bennett 35:10
well,
Hannah Dalby 35:10
yeah, more time, yeah, more time, gyms can be a little toxic sometimes. You know, he originally trained me. I kind of rocked up. I didn't really want to listen to him sometimes because I'm like, Hey, I've gotten here by myself. I just need you to put me in the ring, you know,
Rich Bennett 35:22
right.
Hannah Dalby 35:23
And I'm going to do think I'm running a company at home. I'm going to do things my way. I need some rest. No, you can't have it. So there was a lot of there was a lot of toxicity that kind of went on in that situation. Um, so my last year of fighting, I think I, I really was just throwing the fight. So I was like screw you like, you know, if you're not going to help me, I'm not going to win. Um, I had, you know, staffed myself and over trained for too long, I was really starting to fall apart, you know, making weight had become difficult. Um, And,
Rich Bennett 35:52
damn
Hannah Dalby 35:53
and then, you know, in that time, I'd started the very first version of what I have now as a business. So I'd start, I started doing cry therapy to help me because I was getting like rupture and cools. I was getting injuries because I just didn't eat enough food because making weight all the time. We've got to like they,
Rich Bennett 36:11
yeah.
Hannah Dalby 36:11
you know, their system of it was really starvation and overtraining. Um, so I decided I wanted to cry therapy machines, so me and my father started this recovery center around the corner from my gym. Um, with cry therapy in Fred Sonner and compression therapy, which did really, really well. Um, and, but I couldn't do both things that was hard to manage this business and my marketing business and be a
Rich Bennett 36:38
Uh-huh.
Hannah Dalby 36:38
athlete. Um, so I put him,
Rich Bennett 36:41
technically you had three
Hannah Dalby 36:42
yeah,
Rich Bennett 36:43
businesses because being a professional athlete to business as well.
Hannah Dalby 36:45
Yeah. So I was getting pretty fried. I put a manager into the recovery business to manage a for me. He kind of it that didn't work. It was disappearing down the
Rich Bennett 36:54
Going
Hannah Dalby 36:54
drain.
Rich Bennett 36:55
downhill. Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 36:55
Um, and my, my coach wasn't taking care of me. I knew I needed to get out of that gym. It was really hard to get out of the gym because there was so much pressure around loyalty. And, you know,
Rich Bennett 37:07
Right.
Hannah Dalby 37:07
that kind of thing going on. So I was in a difficult spot. I ended up going to do an ayahuasca journey. And,
Rich Bennett 37:16
um,
OK.
Hannah Dalby 37:19
And I was presented with the, the two things, your father has invested $300, 000 in this business. You're going to honor that or are you going to punch people in the face for the rest of your life. And it was the first time I'd actually felt the the love of him investing in me that much. I look like I need to honor this. Um, so I'm being choice in that moment that I would look after this business and put fighting down, which was very, very tough. It was an identity that I'd held on to.
Rich Bennett 37:56
But the thing is to, I mean, just from hearing everything, um, because you, you started helping people by selling the things for charity. And then you got into car sales, marketing, all that to where you're not really, I mean, you could say you're helping people, but not as much. And then into the fighting. And now here it is a painful circle again. And now you're helping people.
Hannah Dalby 38:23
Well, I think I always
Rich Bennett 38:24
had a funny feeling, your,
Hannah Dalby 38:26
I think I always had, like, even the marketing business, I ended up having a co-program where I would help people to, like,
Rich Bennett 38:33
uh,
Hannah Dalby 38:34
how to do their own marketing and teach them about energy management and time management. And, and like, he's had to run your own ads and he's had to run your own Google ads. Like, let's me empower you to do this yourself so that you don't need a higher an agency.
Rich Bennett 38:46
Okay. Okay. Okay. You're listening to the conversations with Rich Bennett. We'll be right back.
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Hannah Dalby 40:33
Yeah,
so here's the thing. It comes from we have all these parts that we have repressed, suppressed, split off from ourself, not looked at, and this happens in as we're growing up, and as we have these moments in our life that we might get like a little micro-trauma, maybe you really needed some support and someone said, "No, I'm too busy right now." Or they get really angry at you. Then you fragment yourself, and you've got a part of you that really wants some support, it must be taken care of, and a part of you that needs to protect yourself from someone getting angry at you. So you learn to just do things yourself. So now you've got one part of you that I'm just going to do it all by myself, don't worry about it. And another part of you that deeply wants support and help them to be taken care of. But this part that has wants support and
Rich Bennett 41:29
Right.
Hannah Dalby 41:29
wants to be taken care of, you've shoved down somewhere, it comes out sometimes, maybe in a scheduled way when you kind of get upset, where you're like, "Why am I going to anyone help me?"
Rich Bennett 41:37
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 41:38
But you don't even let it in because this other part is like, we're just all by ourself. And so you've got, and this happens in lots of different ways. You have all of these fragmented parts of yourself that don't even know each other exist. And so when I talk about congregation, it's bringing these back together where there's one version of you that has the same desire that can see both the polarities of it and can move forward in one direction, rather than this endless fight, which causes the exhaustion and the burnout and the rejection of the things that you truly desire and the protective parts that fight with your partner and that get angry at your staff and rescue people and do all this kind of stuff. And also we have these energies of masculine and feminine inside of us, dark energies and light energies, all of which are perfectly normal and okay except we make them wrong and then they come out in these leaky ways. So to explain this is like a dark masculine energy might be violence and force and control, which has a place. But if you have rejected it and then you're just being, I'm just a nice boy, I'm just a nice guy. You've rejected all of this part of you which actually needs to be integrated so that you can stand up for yourself so that you can defend yourself so that you can be in control when it's necessary to be in control and not get walked all over. So it's important to bring these parts, this energy within you as a woman, lots of women that I work with have actually rejected this ability to receive and surrender because it's been dangerous to be taken care of, to be in surrender because someone in their life has made love dangerous. And so now they're overfunctioning in this masculine energy of, I'v got to do with, I'll take care of it, I'll do it, you know, don't You worry about it, no, no, no, they can't actually surrender and let a man lead. and so now you get these dynamics that go on, these power, these power struggles that go on inside of relationships or inside of businesses in boardrooms with staff and, you know, and business owners because no one can actually let go. In a business, can I delegate or do I have to have control of everything? The best, you look at someone like Elon Musk, you think that he doesn't have to have a level of surrender when he has that many employees? He can't do anything about that. That is an energy of surrender. So we need to be able to have these energies inside of us and integrate them back in to be in consciousness where we're making a conscious choice be in surrender, to be in control, to be in dark masculine, to be in light masculine, to be in dark feminine. Part of dark feminine is
Rich Bennett 44:32
to
Hannah Dalby 44:32
this primal, agh, kind of energy, and have, I just better be
Rich Bennett 44:37
here.
Hannah Dalby 44:38
Don't let that out, you know.
And it's important because if we're not, if we're not accepting these parts of ourselves, we're not being who we are and when we're showing up in the world as a only small part of ourselves, no matter what we do and no matter what anyone else does, we never feel like we are truly seen, heard, understood, and belong as exactly who we are. And so,
Rich Bennett 45:05
right,
Hannah Dalby 45:06
we don't feel very good. We're just a little bit like, I feel like I'm missing something. I feel a little bit depressed. I feel like you don't really see me, but have you actually brought these parts out? Have you let the world see who, who you are? So that's integrating all of these parts, and then if you want to go full hold on human integration, well, if we're going to be the most authentic high level, high capacity human that we can be, how are we? How are we eating? How are we moving? How can we bring all of this body, mind, soul, all of this together to really take care of us as a human and show up as exactly who we are without all of these blocks, pattern, stories and bullshit that's sitting there. So we can do all the things we truly desire with all of the capacity without losing our relationships, our
Rich Bennett 45:57
anything.
Hannah Dalby 45:57
health or
Rich Bennett 45:57
In the world,
Hannah Dalby 45:58
the way.
Rich Bennett 45:59
Did you come up with this and develop this?
Hannah Dalby 46:05
So, I
Rich Bennett 46:06
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 46:07
think it's something that I've always known. There's a story that I've always told most like people go, you've got to choose, you know, something that always gives, you know, if you're going to have the business. You're probably going to not have your health or your relationships and I just don't think that's true.
Rich Bennett 46:21
Right.
Hannah Dalby 46:21
And I've always believed, no, we can have it all. We really can have all that I'm going to find a way. Because I want to be a business owner and an athlete and have an amazing relationship and have good money and a beautiful, I want to have all of the things without it affecting me. So I knew that as a concept, and I guess my system has been trying to figure that out for my whole entire life.
Rich Bennett 46:43
Yeah,
Hannah Dalby 46:44
you know what I mean. So it's just kind of, I just kind of God
Rich Bennett 46:48
set
Hannah Dalby 46:48
has into the places to get justice kind of by accident. I was trained in psychotherapy by a friend because she was my psychotherapist and she wanted one. So she trained me in it. I was trained in plant medicine facilitation because I was in that world and I had this weird dream and I rang up my, and I was like, I think I should learn that she's like sounds like you should. So I learned all of this space holding. I watched what was happening inside of these journeys and what was kind of going on with people. I met another guy a few years ago who had was doing a particular modality that he didn't think was quite working either. And we've come together and blended all of this stuff together and developed something that, the specific parts work and all of the stuff we're doing emotionally. So we've kind of developed that together and we've separated ways since then and I've added my parts into it. That, getting results. And then all of the food and exercise and that part of it is something that I had to learn myself after getting screwed with overtraining and underreeding and being told
Rich Bennett 47:53
Right.
Hannah Dalby 47:54
information from health professionals that
Rich Bennett 47:57
Wow!
Hannah Dalby 47:57
was making
Rich Bennett 47:58
What
Hannah Dalby 47:58
me sick.
Rich Bennett 47:59
actually surprised you the most while creating
Hannah Dalby 48:07
it? How fast it could be done and also how broken the mental health system is and how broken, so I mean there's some really deep stuff inside of what I talk about and what I teach. And even the coaching industry is broken. The coaching industry is broken. The therapy industry is broken and it's best they're huge industries and they're often making things worse. There's a guru energy that is a problem and it was a really, really, really big problem and so at the end of the day what I'm trying to give someone is sovereignty.
W, we're gonna get the job done, we're gonna do it in a way where you realise that you had all of that within you the entire time. And it wasn't my answers, it wasn't what I told you to do, it wasn't that I have all of the, you know, just come to me, I am a guru, all the answers.
Rich Bennett 49:13
Right.
Hannah Dalby 49:18
I need to be able to keep undoing anything within myself that is
Rich Bennett 49:23
blood.
Hannah Dalby 49:23
causing
Rich Bennett 49:23
Have
Hannah Dalby 49:23
Well,
Rich Bennett 49:23
you? with because the plant-based everything else, have you looked into possibly including, I don't know, something like Raky or Aki Pancher or anything like that?
Hannah Dalby 49:38
So there's a part of what we're doing that.
Rich Bennett 49:41
Right.
Hannah Dalby 49:42
So Raky talks about energy sensors, yeah? We do that,
Rich Bennett 49:47
Okay.
Hannah Dalby 49:47
except I'm not doing it for you. So I will rock them on into there because now I'm the one that has the answers.
Right? So if I was to do this with you, I would drop you into your body, okay, what are you actually feeling, and you start to become aware that you have sensation in your head or your throat or your heart or your solar plexus or your stomach or the base of your spine. And now you're able to chew it into it. I don't have to do anything except guide you there and hold enough space where we can co-regulate together. I can guide the journey, but you're now feeling,
Rich Bennett 50:23
oh
Hannah Dalby 50:24
yeah, there's something in my solar plex. It feels like a wire. Yeah, where do that come from? Otherwise, I just going to go lie on a table and who knows what happens? I don't know, they did something. Do I feel better? Don't I feel better? Where is the cognitive understanding about? When I can drop into my own body and sit here right now and go, yeah, there's something tight in my solar plex right now. What does it want to say? Well, I want to be seen and heard and understood and I want the spotlight. Actually, yeah, I want the spotlight. I love the spotlight. Now I own a desire. Now I'm bringing that out of shadow. I said, imagine how many people are creating Instagram profiles because they have a deep need or desire to be in the spotlight and they do it and they get really upset. People are liking their stuff when it's like just own that you want to be in the spotlight. Like, bring that up into consciousness and go and do something about it. Get on a stage like it's
Rich Bennett 51:16
So
Hannah Dalby 51:16
okay to have that
Rich Bennett 51:17
explain for
Hannah Dalby 51:18
desire.
Rich Bennett 51:18
everybody listening, explain to everybody who, well, first of all, I need, we didn't even mention the name of the business, did we? The jungle, right? I know. How did you come up
Hannah Dalby 51:33
the jungle? Yes, the jungle.
Rich Bennett 51:35
I love it.
Hannah Dalby 51:37
So
originally, it was a recovery jungle. And I'm named that because of the end of my fight year, I would go up to the Daintree Rainforest, which is one of the world's oldest rainforests, very, very beautiful. And that's where I would recalibrate for the year. So I would hike these mountains, be in waterfalls, like just be immersed in. And I would come back like, okay, I'm recovered. I'm ready to do this again. So how could I bring what I got from the jungle? Because I would connect to where I could connect back to myself. All of the answers would come to me while I would spend this time in the, like, I feel very connected to Rainforest. So I wanted to bring that back like, how do I bring the jungle and what I'm getting out of that back into what I'm delivering here? I took out the recovery because I felt like it became
Rich Bennett 52:25
Yeah,
Hannah Dalby 52:25
so much more than sports recovery and energy recovery. We are now expanding into capacity and leadership development and relationships and we argued about it for ages, about what it should be called. And, you know, everyone else had all these ideas that make sense, like you would hear it and go, yeah, I know what you do, but I couldn't let go of the jungle. And, you know, this really is like it might sound a little scary, but it's like we're going into your jungle and there's going to be demons and there's going to be things that we're going to have to look at and you're going to have to face them. And on the other side there's going to be like this beautiful waterfall that you get to
Rich Bennett 53:04
And
Hannah Dalby 53:04
basket.
Rich Bennett 53:04
I was going to say because with the jungle, it could have a double mean, well, it does have a double meaning because yeah, people think for, you know, for Rocious, it's scary when you go in there. But then, when you get to that waterfall and everything is just so peaceful and calming and it's I, I would, I've never. Well, I haven't gone to the jungle in that way. Uhm, fighting is a completely different thing. But I would feel like it's just, you could feel like the tension and everything just coming out of you, especially when you see that water. So you do, do you do retreats up there of clients and everything?
Hannah Dalby 53:51
So I don't, and I don't on purpose.
Rich Bennett 53:55
Just for just for you.
Hannah Dalby 53:57
Sorry.
Okay, so I have a clinic, I have a clinic and we have all this stuff here, but I don't do retreat style stuff, and I This is what happened the retreats you go away for five days or two weeks or whatever it is You get on this transformation and then you go back into your environment And it's so much transformation you can't integrate that into your environment The partner doesn't know how to handle you. You don't like you say all these new things everyone's like you're being weird And so like two things will happen people will either Yeah discard their life because now it doesn't make sense with who they are or they'll discard the transformation because it's
Rich Bennett 54:39
That makes
Hannah Dalby 54:40
hitting up against too many walls
Rich Bennett 54:41
Okay right
Hannah Dalby 54:44
Yeah, so what we do is we do little we work the people over three months and we do little bit of change every week And so you get a little bit of change you go and degree into your life. Hey this happened I can operate a little bit differently. It's safe for me to just shift in that little way You do it again you do it again you do it again and by the time we're done You've stayed in your environment and done all of the work and everyone's okay You're okay with it everyone else is okay with you can get a monumental identity shift But it's happened inside of your environment over time And so it's integrated fully into your
Rich Bennett 55:17
that makes
Hannah Dalby 55:18
life
Rich Bennett 55:18
yeah that makes sense
Hannah Dalby 55:19
Yeah,
Rich Bennett 55:20
That makes a lot of sense so Who is this actually for what type of Because it's not just for people that are
In recovery a dictionary recovery. It's for like yourself and athlete. It's i mean who who is it generally for
Hannah Dalby 55:40
So my favorite clients are some level of high performer
Rich Bennett 55:44
sir sports
Hannah Dalby 55:46
and the reason They understand that it takes doing a hard thing to get a
Rich Bennett 55:51
Okay,
Hannah Dalby 55:51
result that you deeply desire They know what is like go into the mad and go right. We're gonna do this hard thing that invest in ourselves We're gonna do this thing to get to the place that we want to go to So sometimes I'll have high functioning business owner addicts, right, and that works very well I don't ever say it's time to get clean. We do the work and it falls away This is integrating into their environment People that are in executive role was that I'm struggling with leading teams and having this kind of stuff go on business owners Absolutely any but but it's not just that either It's like, you know, sometimes it's not a high performing person isn't necessarily a business owner as someone that has just been I do well at everything in my life. I really want to do well at everything in my life Um Yeah Yeah, so it's like I want to I want to do really really good. I want to win and everything That works really really well for that now that's not to say that this doesn't work for The other types of people I have a lot of retired women in their fifties actually Because they've gotten to this part of their life and they're like wait a minute I have just lived my life for everyone else and I've got all this stuff and it's all surfacing What do I do with it and I actually you know, I want to keep my relationship So I do a lot of work with
Rich Bennett 57:03
with
Hannah Dalby 57:03
coupled
Rich Bennett 57:03
And in the fifties
Hannah Dalby 57:04
a lot of work
Rich Bennett 57:04
that's important too
Hannah Dalby 57:05
And we do the work Yeah, I mean, I would love that actually if people work when they go into a new relationship Just did this first because then you
Rich Bennett 57:15
yeah
Hannah Dalby 57:15
don't get 10 years of You know, and they're going to meet the end going yeah, we've been fighting each other for all of these years and now the damage is done It's like you you know when you first enter these relationships and then the triggers start And it's like oh like that's the that's the moment to get the work done when the triggers start happening Because now we know that those triggers are moments Where it's showing you
Rich Bennett 57:38
Yeah,
Hannah Dalby 57:38
something within
Rich Bennett 57:38
you So where one other services does the jungle I kind of love that does the jungle offer Now
Hannah Dalby 57:48
So inside of our programs, we also do coaching around food for hormones and energy and strength and all that kind of stuff we have a strength coach that works with every single one of our clients um And if they're in clinic if they're actually in the sunshine coast Although I have had a client fly here for three months and do the whole program in person from the US that's happened um And so inside the clinic we have aerial yoga and cryotherapy, compression therapy in Fred's owner
Rich Bennett 58:15
And I was gonna ask you about the aerial yoga because there's Yeah From here who's in the wwe What who's a referee
Hannah Dalby 58:27
Uh-huh
Rich Bennett 58:28
Well, in wwe
Hannah Dalby 58:29
Uh-huh
Rich Bennett 58:30
But she does that Arial Aerial yoga but also with the Yeah That shit is amazing And you have to have some strength to do that don't you?
Hannah Dalby 58:48
Well, if you're doing it as like a Performance type of thing I use it for clients as fascia release
Okay, so uh, fascia in your hips get tight because
Rich Bennett 59:04
podcast
Hannah Dalby 59:05
you
Rich Bennett 59:05
Uh-huh,
Hannah Dalby 59:05
sit at a chair running a
Rich Bennett 59:05
yeah, so I need aerial yoga, okay
(laughs)
Hannah Dalby 59:10
Right, and then it gets locked in place and over over your life, the use of HUD shoulders, tire shoulders, all of this is fascia that has gotten stuck. And when our fascia is stuck, we hold the frame and the energetic pose of that. So this is someone that is heart closed and shutting themselves down and feeling small. And if their fascia is locked in, even if they're trying to be up here, their fascia is locked in that way, we want to release that and who actually start releasing.
Rich Bennett 59:39
Okay. Ooh, I mean, I gotta try this now. I do. I mean, I'd be afraid I'd probably rip the things out of the wall and have the ceiling or something.
Hannah Dalby 59:52
but not
Rich Bennett 59:52
You know
Hannah Dalby 59:53
at
Rich Bennett 59:53
what that is,
Hannah Dalby 59:53
300
Rich Bennett 59:53
pound,
Hannah Dalby 59:54
kilos? 300?
Rich Bennett 59:56
Oh.
Hannah Dalby 59:57
That's 600 pounds
Rich Bennett 59:58
Well, well, I've been
Hannah Dalby 59:59
right
Rich Bennett 59:59
known
Hannah Dalby 59:59
here.
Rich Bennett 59:59
to break the raw darn chairs. So that's when I was heavier, not now, not now. Alright, and another important thing you mentioned was food, which and it's, you know, you were mentioned earlier, how basically when you were training in Muay Thai the one case was basically starving you. Like you weren't eating and everything. How important
Hannah Dalby 1:00:23
is
Rich Bennett 1:00:24
diet. And when I say diet, I don't mean diet eating, I mean, what you eat, yeah.
Hannah Dalby 1:00:33
It is extreme, it's extremely important to a point, right? So like 80% of the people I work with are under eating and you'd think it's the opposite. shock.
Rich Bennett 1:00:46
Yes.
Hannah Dalby 1:00:46
And because we've had this diet culture go on and you know, eat less, move more and we need a lot more food than you would imagine. So when I gave up fighting, I put on 60 pounds within a couple of months because I've been so starved and my system
Rich Bennett 1:00:59
It was
Hannah Dalby 1:00:59
was
Rich Bennett 1:00:59
a
Hannah Dalby 1:00:59
like, it had just had enough. And shock and my metabolism had been burnt to the ground. I mean, I hadn't had a period.
Rich Bennett 1:01:09
Jesus.
Hannah Dalby 1:01:09
Because I just had no hormones. Yeah.
Rich Bennett 1:01:13
Wow. Okay. It's scary as
Hannah Dalby 1:01:17
hell. Um, so to, yeah. And I thought it was great. I was like, this is amazing.
Rich Bennett 1:01:25
You know, I admit that you're probably scared of first thinking, oh my God, am I pregnant?
Hannah Dalby 1:01:33
Well, I mean, I just,
Rich Bennett 1:01:34
I
Hannah Dalby 1:01:35
was like, cool, this isn't happening, like whatever. Like, and I didn't, I was in such masculine energy. I was like, I don't need that. Oh, fuck and who is better. I can just like endlessly. Great. I need no days off. This is amazing.
Rich Bennett 1:01:47
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 1:01:47
Not
Rich Bennett 1:01:48
Wow.
Hannah Dalby 1:01:48
understanding what it was doing to me. Uh, the very part was at one point, I got a dexascar and my bone,
Rich Bennett 1:01:54
whoa.
Hannah Dalby 1:01:55
That started to decrease.
And so that it was like, all right, I need to do something about this. Um, so it took a lot. It took a lot of work to get it to come back. And the first thing that I was told was eat as much as you want or whatever you want. And I had pretty severe eating disorder by then. So
Rich Bennett 1:02:13
yeah,
Hannah Dalby 1:02:14
because I'd starved for myself for so long, I was like a unique energy. So if I ate something that I shouldn't have wished could have been like a banana, I would go for like a 10 or 20 K run because oops, I shouldn't have eaten that. Yeah. Um, and so my metabolism had slowed so far down. There was one fight camp. My, my dietician said 800 calories a day, minimum of 16 K runs in morning and your
Rich Bennett 1:02:42
only
Hannah Dalby 1:02:42
three hours,
Rich Bennett 1:02:42
800 calories.
How the hell were you surviving?
All right. So because I saw your one video on Instagram, the breakfast you were making. I guess it was how many calories do you eat a day?
Hannah Dalby 1:02:58
Yeah,
Rich Bennett 1:03:02
about
Hannah Dalby 1:03:03
two and a half thousand.
Rich Bennett 1:03:05
Still not a lot, b I mean, it's a lot better than 800.
Hannah Dalby 1:03:11
Yeah, so so interestingly, when I had to, um, like, I put on all this weight really quickly. So I remembered the first moments of like, I'm not eating an avocado, avocado will make me fat. And then I like, you know, I had to learn how to just eat anything. So I started eating a lot of food. I ended up finding this method of cycling carbohydrates in and out. And then I learned everything about inflammatory food. And then I learned, you know, so I was I understood all of this stuff. I increased my calories to a minimum of three thousand a day and then weight started falling,
Rich Bennett 1:03:46
interesting. Because
Hannah Dalby 1:03:49
it finally was like, we have enough nutrients to to turn on your digestive system, to turn on your hormonal system, to turn on your brain. And so now that all these things are working, we don't just store anything and then the weight started falling off. And then I started cycling carbohydrates in and out and doing intermittent fasting and then more weight fell off. then they got stuck and then it was only the emotional stuff that took it off. So it was all of my abandonment wounding, weight fell off. So it was like safety, because with an abandonment wound, anytime someone does anything
Rich Bennett 1:04:26
Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 1:04:26
that feels like they're leaving you or they're rejecting you, cortisol increase, I feel like I might die. And so then it's a safety, like a protection mechanism. and I did three months specifically around my abandonment wounding and just like eight kilos fell off of me. So like 16 pounds
Rich Bennett 1:04:46
of
Hannah Dalby 1:04:46
fell
Rich Bennett 1:04:46
me.
Hannah Dalby 1:04:46
off
Rich Bennett 1:04:46
Yeah, you definitely need to write a book. I mean your story's amazing and then what you're doing now and it's amazing because you're learning all this stuff throughout things you did throughout your life. Yeah and myself I was on the heavy scale, not the life scale and I needed to cut back on what I was eating but I found it's I tried to die at once before yeah I lost weight and then what happens you stop doing the diet the weight goes back on and then I changed my lifestyle and started counting calories
Hannah Dalby 1:05:27
and
Rich Bennett 1:05:28
it made a big difference and I was able to drop it down. Now I think I plateaued but the emotional thing I never thought about that. How do you lose that though?
Hannah Dalby 1:05:40
Yeah it's a stress, you know if you release the stress that your the body keeps the score. If you're holding onto the emotions and stress and old stuff that you might have been caring for all of your life is your body starts to turn into
Rich Bennett 1:05:52
Yeah okay.
Hannah Dalby 1:05:52
cancer and autoimmune diseases and chronic fatigue and you know weight gain or all of inflammation so as we deal with this stuff internally the body just starts healing yourself. I got rid of my thyroid problem by starting
Rich Bennett 1:06:07
problem.
Hannah Dalby 1:06:07
my
Rich Bennett 1:06:07
Glad you mentioned that why did you start this? Why did you decide to start a podcast?
Hannah Dalby 1:06:17
So I woke up one morning at 1 o'clock in the morning with this like download. You needed all podcasts and so I got my general out and it was like here's the 12 people you need to interview here's the questions you need to ask I was like cool we're gonna do that and then I did nothing. I had a sit there and I was like if I'm gonna tell my story so you're gonna remember that through all of this no one knew
Rich Bennett 1:06:40
oh
Hannah Dalby 1:06:40
anything my
Rich Bennett 1:06:41
shit
Hannah Dalby 1:06:41
no I took drugs my parents didn't know I got cleaned my parents didn't know I'd been in domestic violence no one knew a single thing they just assumed that I had the surface level life so it like all the complete secret so if I was gonna tell my story
Rich Bennett 1:06:57
to
Hannah Dalby 1:06:58
I had
Rich Bennett 1:06:58
okay
Hannah Dalby 1:06:58
tell my parents
the other thing was I refused to do it half-ast I wasn't gonna sit at my coffee table and not have a video I was like no I want full studio it's gonna be amazing if I'm gonna do this it's gonna be done well and my friend of mine I was telling him this and he's like oh I've got this friend around the corner he has a studio so I hooked up there and I was like okay it's time to do it but I'm gonna have to tell my parents so I flew down there I made the meet me in a hotel room and I was like I've got something to tell you I'm about to start this podcast the internet is gonna know about it so I'm gonna tell you my story and I sat down and told them my story for an hour my dad bought his eyes out my mum sat there in silence she actually ends up after going yeah you know you've just told me my life
Rich Bennett 1:07:50
Wow
Hannah Dalby 1:07:51
but I never told anyone yeah I was like well thanks
Rich Bennett 1:07:55
know
Hannah Dalby 1:07:55
man you
Rich Bennett 1:07:56
what I'm cleans you brought that up and this is something I've told I tell people all the time tell your story because you never know who you're gonna help and I remember I've went on somebody else's podcast and I told my story and I had friends cousins yeah family members contacting me thanking me because they went through the same thing and it took me holy shit
40 over 40 years and nobody in my family not even my kids my wife nobody knew what I had what I had gone through and when I told them yeah tears came out but oh my god the emotion the release felt so good and the funny thing is I would never would have done it but I heard well I don't want to say never never say never I heard there was an actor from here was on a show and he talked about what happened to him and I was blown away I was shocked and I emailed him and next thing I know my phone's ringing and he told me like Richie said you have to tell your story you have to tell your wife and kids and your family and that was John Chek and to this day I thank him for that because otherwise yeah I never and I would still be holding it in you know and then I would definitely need to fly to you
Hannah Dalby 1:09:37
yeah
Rich Bennett 1:09:37
and go through the jungle
so hello how long have you actually been doing the podcast
Hannah Dalby 1:09:43
yeah
look it must be I must have
Rich Bennett 1:09:49
okay
Hannah Dalby 1:09:50
started I guess 18 months ago or something like that I put on wars my friend shut down his studio which was very upsetting for me and because I'm a little bit of a perfectionist so I'm like well we're not doing it again until we have the
Rich Bennett 1:10:02
all
Hannah Dalby 1:10:02
beautiful
Rich Bennett 1:10:02
right
Hannah Dalby 1:10:02
studio so I'm
Rich Bennett 1:10:03
don't wait. Seriously. Don't wait. Uh, I know you're going to get upset at me. Third of perfectionist bullshit at the window because the guest and everything and your story. What you have to offer, that's the perfectionist part. You are helping other people. Other people need to hear that. So, yeah, look, you see what's behind me, right? I have a, a green screen that's got,
Hannah Dalby 1:10:31
I see
Rich Bennett 1:10:33
wh that only because what's behind the wall. Behind the curtain. What's behind the curtain is my office is torn apart. You know, it has, it has been for years because I haven't been able to find the time to get back to work on it. But the guests that I have on, it's so important. Their story is so important. And when I get emails or phone calls from listeners, thank you me for something they heard from the guest. And I know that's going to happen in your case too. It's like, if I would have waited, I may not have been, I don't want to say I, my guest may not have been able to save somebody's life. So, yeah, don't wait. Don't wait for the perfectionist stuff.
Hannah Dalby 1:11:18
Yeah, yeah, I
Rich Bennett 1:11:19
Well, that's hot.
Hannah Dalby 1:11:20
see.
Rich Bennett 1:11:20
Hey,
Hannah Dalby 1:11:21
studio.
Rich Bennett 1:11:21
my goal, too. I want
Hannah Dalby 1:11:23
That's
Rich Bennett 1:11:23
to get, not this, I want a 200 square foot shit in my backyard with the cameras and everything and that'll be my studio. Now, unfortunately, I can't do all video because I've had guests on who were not, they couldn't share their face. So, and I've had an, I even have one, I had to disguise his voice and couldn't show his face. So, it's like, plus I have a tendency to break cameras, but that's been the last. I
Hannah Dalby 1:11:55
don't, pretty
Rich Bennett 1:11:57
good. I throw people off
Hannah Dalby 1:12:00
because
Rich Bennett 1:12:00
when, so after December, all I have is a go to and then June 1st, I start growing my beer because I play Santa Claus. So, people are like, well, where's
Hannah Dalby 1:12:13
But this is,
Rich Bennett 1:12:15
it? Yeah.
Hannah Dalby 1:12:15
this is about four weeks of growth.
Rich Bennett 1:12:18
What is, yeah, so tell you, should I throw shit? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay. I didn't realize that till you said it like that. Maybe that's why it's so full, but you when I, when come Christmas time, hmm.
Ye,
Hannah Dalby 1:12:34
don't
Rich Bennett 1:12:35
because I
Hannah Dalby 1:12:35
need
Rich Bennett 1:12:35
I
Hannah Dalby 1:12:35
this.
Rich Bennett 1:12:35
closed professionally, and right after Christmas, it comes off.
Hannah Dalby 1:12:40
It's hilarious.
Rich Bennett 1:12:41
It's hilarious. And I would love to let it keep growing, but, uh-huh.
Hannah Dalby 1:12:48
Why?
Rich Bennett 1:12:48
Oh, yeah, she said she would come
Hannah Dalby 1:12:50
middle.
Rich Bennett 1:12:50
off in the
Hannah Dalby 1:12:50
Why?
Rich Bennett 1:12:51
And I know she would. She's an Irish redhead, I'm not going to piss her off. Look, you know, she may not know Muay Thai. Good shot.
Hannah Dalby 1:13:02
Yeah.
Rich Bennett 1:13:03
Say, uh-uh, tell everybody the websites, websites, because I know you have more than one.
Hannah Dalby 1:13:10
Yeah. So the jungle, the jungle. net. au
Rich Bennett 1:13:14
it's
Hannah Dalby 1:13:14
or Hannard
Rich Bennett 1:13:15
D-A-L-B-I
Hannah Dalby 1:13:15
and
Rich Bennett 1:13:17
and Hannah with an H, H-A-N-N-A-H. Hannah, is there anything you'd like to add before you pick the last
question? Oh, yeah.
Hannah Dalby 1:13:28
Picks the last question.
Rich Bennett 1:13:31
Well, you've got pick a number. I have a hundred different, a hundred different questions here. I'm not going to ask you all 100. I need you to pick a number between one,
three,
Hannah Dalby 1:13:44
uh-uh,
Rich Bennett 1:13:45
He's picking
Hannah Dalby 1:13:45
three.
Rich Bennett 1:13:45
three or four. All right. Now I need you to pick a number between 41 and 60,
Hannah Dalby 1:13:52
52. 52.
Rich Bennett 1:13:59
All right. So my listeners know I do not know what all these questions are. And most of the time, somehow or another, when the guest picks a question, it aligns with what we've been talking about in a way. And you pick number 52. What is something you've come to appreciate more as you've got an order?
Hannah Dalby 1:14:27
People,
like human beings and connection and that other people have something to say and something to share and something to do, because I was miss Aldo or myself. I don't need you. So I think it's like the value of connection and community and collaboration and what happens when we bring everyone's hearts and minds into a room and allow them to be
Rich Bennett 1:14:51
If
Hannah Dalby 1:14:51
hurt
Rich Bennett 1:14:51
they're human
Hannah Dalby 1:14:52
too.
Rich Bennett 1:14:52
integration specialists, right? And thank you so much. It's been an honor. And yeah, when I come over there, find the nicest kangaroo for me to pet. Okay. Because I don't want one of the- I've seen those things by- one of them hitting me because that means you're going to have to come out and protect me.
Hannah Dalby 1:15:17
Well, I recommend- well, I can come out and protect you.
Rich Bennett 1:15:20
We're kind of dog.
Hannah Dalby 1:15:22
Yeah. Well, I have a little dash on CrossFoxy, but I also have a big 50 kilo like Betzer and
Rich Bennett 1:15:29
him.
Hannah Dalby 1:15:30
chasing
Rich Bennett 1:15:30
Shit, okay, all right, I'll just take him out with me. And thanks a lot.
Hannah Dalby 1:15:35
Yeah. Yeah, very welcome. Thank you so much.
Rich Bennett 1:15:39
i think one of the biggest things i'm taking away from this conversation, is that strength doesn't always mean push and harder. Sometimes, strength is recognizing what we're carrying, understanding why we're carrying it, and finally, being willing to put some of it down. Hannah spent so much of her life fighting, in the ring, in business, through addiction, uh, through abusive relationships, through loss, and even in some ways against herself. And yet, through all of that, she kept learning. Hannah kept rebuilding, and eventually, that fight became something completely different. Instead of simply surviving her own experiences, she started using what she learned to help other people better understand themselves. I love where we ended this conversation because, after everything she's accomplished, what she's come to appreciate most is people. Connection, community, collaboration, being able to walk into a room, bring our experiences together, and actually hear one another. Maybe that's something all of us need to remember. We don't always have to do everything ourselves, we don't have to hide the parts of our story where we're afraid other people might see. And we certainly don't have to wait until everything is perfect before we share that story. Because somebody else may need to hear it. Hannah, thank you for being willing to share yours. And to everybody listening. If something Hannah said today, hit home. Don't just move on to the next podcast or the next thing on your schedule. Sit with it for a while. Ask yourself what you've been pushing down and what you're trying to outrun. And maybe even where you've convinced yourself that you have to handle everything I learned. And then start a conversation. Until next time, I'm Rich Bennett. Thanks for listening and remember, every great conversation starts with someone willing to listen and someone willing to share. And now it's your turn. Join the conversation by sharing this episode. Leave in a comment or reaching out to me directly. Take care. Be kind to one another and I'll talk with you again soon.

