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Michele Love & Steven Hofmeister: Vehicle of Truth

Michele Love & Steven Hofmeister: Vehicle of Truth

Key Takeaways

  • Michele Love and Steven Hofmeister transitioned their ministry from a traditional four-wall building into a mobile RV known as 'Hope on Wheels' to meet the community directly where they are.
  • The mobile ministry provides practical support, including food and toiletries, alongside Christian fellowship, prayer, and spiritual guidance.
  • Rather than sticking to a rigid fixed location, the ministry relies on divine direction and prayer to determine where to park and serve next.
  • Michele Love is also an author with several books published, including her upcoming youth devotional titled Turn the Page.
  • The overarching mission of Hope on Wheels is to bring the church experience directly to the streets, fostering genuine human connection and immediate support for individuals in need.

What happens when a ministry takes its mission out of a building and brings hope directly to the community? For Michele Love and Steven Hofmeister, it means an RV filled with prayer, practical support, and opportunities to connect.

In this episode of Conversations with Rich Bennett, author and evangelist Michele Love and associate pastor Steven Hofmeister share the story behind Voice of Truth Center’s Hope on Wheels. Their mobile ministry brings Christian fellowship, food, toiletries, and prayer to people where they are.

The conversation also gets personal as Rich shares why he considered stepping away from podcasting and how prayer helped renew his sense of purpose.

Listen as they explore:

  • Why they moved their ministry from a building to an RV.
  • How prayer can include gratitude, conversation, and quiet listening.
  • Why helping one person can make an entire outreach trip worthwhile.
  • How cooperation between ministries can strengthen community service.
  • Michele’s books, including Fence Rider and her upcoming youth devotional, Turn the Page.

Learn more about the ministry at https://voiceoftruthusa.org/ and explore Hope on Wheels at https://hopeonwheels.votc.us/.

This episode is sponsored by Bel Air Window & Door: https://www.belairwindowanddoor.com/. Recorded at the Freedom Federal Credit Union Studios.

Subscribe, leave a review, and join the conversation by sharing what gives you hope or helps you reconnect with your purpose. Visit https://www.conversationswithrichbennett.com/ for more episodes.

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Frequently Asked Questions

What is Hope on Wheels by Voice of Truth Center?

Hope on Wheels is a mobile RV ministry operated by Michele Love and Steven Hofmeister of Voice of Truth Center that brings prayer, food, toiletries, and fellowship directly to community members.

Why did Voice of Truth Center move from a building to an RV?

The ministry leaders felt called by God to take their mission out of a traditional four-walled building and bring the church experience directly to people in public spaces and local neighborhoods.

Where can people learn more about Michele Love and Hope on Wheels?

You can explore the mobile ministry at hopeonwheels.votc.us and learn more about the broader organization at voiceoftruthusa.org.

00:00 - Opening

01:35 - Meet Michele Love and Steven Hofmeister

02:36 - Michele’s books and a new youth devotional

04:00 - Helping authors through The Author Pitch

05:24 - Taking the ministry on the road

07:48 - Prayer, meals, and community outreach

09:24 - A vision for outdoor services and baptisms

12:41 - Bringing the church to the community

16:19 - Where to find Hope on Wheels

17:33 - Growth, funding, and ministry collaboration

21:12 - Why one person makes the trip worthwhile

23:02 - Rich names the Vehicle of Truth

25:36 - How to pray and listen to God

28:10 - Why Rich decided to keep podcasting

31:14 - Trusting God with the path ahead

32:30 - Sponsor break: Bel Air Window & Door

33:50 - Prayer, relationship, and free will

36:19 - Asking others how you can pray for them

38:29 - Social media and personal prayer requests

40:41 - Finding the outreach itinerary

42:44 - Michele’s book Fence Rider

46:55 - Books and the Turn the Page devotional

51:17 - The final question challenge

52:39 - Steven on faith and decision-making

55:13 - Michele on stress and responsibility

59:43 - A possible book about talking to God

01:01:51 - The Bible as an owner’s manual

01:03:35 - Closing prayer

Wendy & Rich 0:01
Coming to you from the Freedom Federal Credit Union Studios, Hartford County Living Presents, Conversations With Rich Bennett. I'm good to hear. 

You're not that show-up. 

I've never played football before. It's kind of a few seconds of hard work. Just don't, just don't. No, no, no, it's okay. 

Rich Bennett 0:27
I have a young lady and gentlemen here with me and we were talking before we started recording. We cannot remember the last time she was on, but she's been 

Steven Hofmeister 0:38
on 

Rich Bennett 0:39
twice. Gentleman has been on yet. I don't know what he's been waiting for. But you've all heard me mention her name on several other episodes. I have Michelle Love with me, and she brought Steve Hoffmeister with her. Both have something that is... I want to say simply 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04
amazing. 

Rich Bennett 1:05
And I can see this taking off and becoming a, definitely a national thing with you guys on the road. So how you both doing? 

Michele Love 1:20
Good. 

Rich Bennett 1:21
Good. 

Michele Love 1:21
>> Blessed and highly favored. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:23
>> Right on. >> Agreed. 

Rich Bennett 1:24
>> That works. That 

Steven Hofmeister 1:26
>> 

Rich Bennett 1:26
works. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:26
Say it any better than that. 

Michele Love 1:27
>> Very busy. 

Rich Bennett 1:28
>> Well, I said last time you were on you wrote your second book. But how many books have you ever out now? Five. 

Michele Love 1:34
>> Sixth one is, as is almost finished. It's a youth book. It's a youth devotional book, called Turn the Page. It's literally a 60 second devotional for ten year olds and up. It's very simple. It's very cool how God did it too. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:48
>> 

Rich Bennett 1:49
Your six book already. 

Michele Love 1:51
>> Mm-hmm. >> It's God. I'm not 

Rich Bennett 1:54
enough. >> Yeah. >> Well, because Steve, I don't know if she ever told you 

Steven Hofmeister 2:00
this story. But 

Rich Bennett 2:01
she came on for her second book. It's no secret I do Santa Claus. 

Here we had an author, and I asked her she could write a Christmas 

Steven Hofmeister 2:15
book. >> Right. 

Rich Bennett 2:15
This was what you were on. I think it was in You say your response 

Steven Hofmeister 2:21
September. 

Rich Bennett 2:21
was if God tells me to I will. Lo and behold. Maybe three weeks. You sent me 

Steven Hofmeister 2:29
the 

Rich Bennett 2:31
>> 

Michele Love 2:31
book. 

Rich Bennett 2:31
The outline of it. >> The manuscript. 

Steven Hofmeister 2:34
>> Yeah. >> 

Rich Bennett 2:36
This is true. >> This is great. This is a true children's 

Steven Hofmeister 2:40
Christmas. >> Christmas book because. 

Rich Bennett 2:42
>> Talking about the true meaning of Christmas. 

Michele Love 2:45
>> 

Rich Bennett 2:46
It 

Michele Love 2:46
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 2:47
was amazing, but here's 

Michele Love 2:49
>> 

Rich Bennett 2:49
the funny. 

Steven Hofmeister 2:51
I'm 

Rich Bennett 2:52
calling her out. >> Because I started another podcast. A new podcast called the author, pitch. Strictly for 

Steven Hofmeister 3:01
authors to come on. 

Rich Bennett 3:02
to pitch 

Steven Hofmeister 3:03
>> 

Rich Bennett 3:03
their book and read an excerpt from the book. Short form. It's only 

Steven Hofmeister 3:06
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 3:06
about 15 minutes long. 

Steven Hofmeister 3:08
I'm 

Rich Bennett 3:08
Do you know how many times 

Steven Hofmeister 3:09
going 

Rich Bennett 3:09
Michelle's been on that one? 

Steven Hofmeister 3:11
[laughs] 

Rich Bennett 3:12
None. 

Steven Hofmeister 3:13
Exactly, that's 

Rich Bennett 3:14
saying. 

Steven Hofmeister 3:14
what she was >> 

Michele Love 3:16
I'm sorry. 

Steven Hofmeister 3:17
>> I'm sorry. [laughs] 

Rich Bennett 3:19
>> Sorry. You should have thought. Because that one I did it. It's like, okay. 

Steven Hofmeister 3:25
12 

Rich Bennett 3:26
episodes, I'll do one season. I don't think it'll take off. I'm recording the fourth season 

Michele Love 3:34
already. >> Wow. 

Rich Bennett 3:35
>> That's how. Because authors always struggle marketing their book. 

Michele Love 3:41
>> Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 3:42
>> Yeah. >> And that's the biggest. That's what I wanted 

Steven Hofmeister 3:44
to do it. 

Rich Bennett 3:45
>> Because something in my mind, and I believe it was God, said you need to do something to help these authors out. And when you hear an author read something from their own book, it just, to me, that sells the book. It paints the picture a lot 

Steven Hofmeister 4:04
>> 

Rich Bennett 4:04
better. 

Steven Hofmeister 4:04
I'm 

Rich Bennett 4:04
So, I'll 

Steven Hofmeister 4:06
still-- 

Rich Bennett 4:06
still 

Steven Hofmeister 4:06
In 

Rich Bennett 4:06
be-- 

Steven Hofmeister 4:06
her defense, I can say that I've been lucky to be able to keep her on the phone for three minutes to learn to do a podcast. 

Rich Bennett 4:12
[laughs] 

Steven Hofmeister 4:13
So-- 

Rich Bennett 4:13
Don't 

Steven Hofmeister 4:15
take it personally, Rich. 

Rich Bennett 4:16
>> Bigot of God telling me to do this, you guys have started something which is amazing because God 

Steven Hofmeister 4:25
to explain 

Rich Bennett 4:26
told me 

Steven Hofmeister 4:26
what it is. >> Well, 

Michele Love 4:28
we were in a building. 

Rich Bennett 4:29
>> Right. 

Michele Love 4:29
>> And the beginning of the year. I said to Steve, he's moving us. We're coming out of this building 

Rich Bennett 4:37
>> Right. >> And 

Michele Love 4:38
in three months. Uh, and he gave us a date and everything. Went to the 

Steven Hofmeister 4:42
[BLANK_AUDIO] 

Michele Love 4:42
landlord and said we have to go. Landlord was great, worked 

Steven Hofmeister 4:45
him. 

Michele Love 4:45
with 

Steven Hofmeister 4:46
Yeah, I did absolutely great. 

Michele Love 4:47
And he said, okay, he was sad. He was really sad. He said, I love having you guys here. I said, we love being here too, but God said we're going out. 

Rich Bennett 4:55
Yeah. 

Michele Love 4:55
We are no longer to be in a four wall building. Because it worked for the time being. 

Steven Hofmeister 5:01
It did. 

Rich Bennett 5:02
Yeah. 

Michele Love 5:02
The media really took off with it. But it wasn't what God wanted for us. So we had George and I. My husband had an RV. And George had been saying for years, you need to wrap that thing and get it on the road. Well, guess what? 

Rich Bennett 5:18
We know you have four wheeled 

Michele Love 5:20
Wrap that. 

Rich Bennett 5:20
building 

Steven Hofmeister 5:20
Wrap 

Rich Bennett 5:21
with 

Steven Hofmeister 5:21
it. 

Rich Bennett 5:21
wheels. 

Steven Hofmeister 5:22
Got it on the right 

Michele Love 5:22
on wheels and it's called hope on. 

Steven Hofmeister 5:25
Now you have two wheels, 

Michele Love 5:25
lesson, blessings on board. 

Rich Bennett 5:27
Oh, I 

Michele Love 5:27
that. You 

Rich Bennett 5:27
love 

Michele Love 5:27
can't miss it. 

Rich Bennett 5:28
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 5:29
we can't miss it 

Michele Love 5:30
when it's on the road. It's 

Steven Hofmeister 5:31
It 

Michele Love 5:31
got. 

Steven Hofmeister 5:31
stands out. 

Michele Love 5:32
It's got the our father on the back. It's got Mama miss his logo because mama miss Monsters, hard for signs. I don't know. 

Rich Bennett 5:40
Her yet. 

Michele Love 5:41
Her big logo is on her side of it. Because she did the wrapping for us. God, she 

Steven Hofmeister 5:47
She 

Michele Love 5:47
told us what it would cost. I said I'm not claiming that. God's got it. God provided. We had a sponsor. We had another sponsor. 

Steven Hofmeister 5:55
did. 

Michele Love 5:56
We gave. We gave her everything we had. She said, we're good. I said. 

Rich Bennett 6:00
Wow. 

Michele Love 6:01
she said this is good. She got all the materials. The whole thing was God. The whole thing 

Rich Bennett 6:05
Sure, 

Michele Love 6:05
worked out. And so we got that thing. It's been on the road now. What four months, Steve? 

Rich Bennett 6:11
That's 

Steven Hofmeister 6:12
it. So I guess you're right about that. 

Michele Love 6:14
it's 

Steven Hofmeister 6:14
Yeah, 

Michele Love 6:14
I think it's been on the road four months. Voice. 

Rich Bennett 6:16
Okay. 

Michele Love 6:17
And around for almost two years. But the hope on wheels, 

Steven Hofmeister 6:20
It's 

Rich Bennett 6:21
wow. 

Steven Hofmeister 6:21
been about months. 

Michele Love 6:22
four 

Steven Hofmeister 6:22
Just about. Yeah. 

Michele Love 6:23
And we are. 

Rich Bennett 6:26
I was just going to say we're recording this August 21. So 

Michele Love 6:30
So we're recording this August 21. Oh, cool. Okay. It's I would say 

Rich Bennett 6:34
spring. 

Michele Love 6:34
four 

Rich Bennett 6:35
Yeah. 

Michele Love 6:35
months. Yeah, I would say four months. And we just go out. We do whatever God says. 

Rich Bennett 6:39
Yeah. 

Michele Love 6:40
We go out. We've had church on the bus, Bible study on the bus. We've had cook outs. We've had pizza party. We bought a little pizza oven. 

Steven Hofmeister 6:48
Yeah. 

Michele Love 6:48
That you put pellets in and it fire stones. It's got a stone. 

Steven Hofmeister 6:53
It is a really great event. 

Michele Love 6:55
Yeah. Yeah. And it's we just go out and whatever God calls us to do. We just ordered, how can I pray for you signs. 

Rich Bennett 7:04
Yeah. 

Michele Love 7:04
That's what he's showing me now. I need you guys to get out there. And to go stop where I tell you to stop. Land. Get out. And put your signs up and start praying for The healing people delivering 

Steven Hofmeister 7:20
people. 

Michele Love 7:20
people by the power of God, by the name of Jesus Christ. And so we're gearing up now to go outside of Maryland. He's shown us going to Washington. He's shown us 

Rich Bennett 7:35
state or DC. 

Michele Love 7:36
see 

Rich Bennett 7:36
Okay. 

Steven Hofmeister 7:37
He said. A 

Rich Bennett 7:38
lot of people down there do need 

Michele Love 7:39
Down 

Rich Bennett 7:39
help. 

Michele Love 7:42
south down south showing us to go to Baltimore City. So the bus will be we'll always have things on the bus. Tool 親ries non perishables, like a 

Rich Bennett 7:52
ton 

Michele Love 7:52
of food today to people. We'll always have things on the bus that we can provide for people. But God is kind of taking it to this place where he's saying they need word prayer and truth. 

Rich Bennett 8:04
Yeah, 

Michele Love 8:05
That's what they need because that's what will actually change their lives. 

Steven Hofmeister 8:09
it's 

Michele Love 8:09
All 

Steven Hofmeister 8:09
what's about. 

Michele Love 8:10
this stuff is great. It's pomp and 

Rich Bennett 8:13
Yeah. 

Michele Love 8:13
stance. But they need the 

Steven Hofmeister 8:15
word. 

Michele Love 8:15
They need prayer. 

Rich Bennett 8:16
Well, and that's the great thing about this verse that this versus the building. You can hold a bigger service with the RV that you can in the building because you get an open field. 

Michele Love 8:27
we're looking for one for temp revival now. 

Steven Hofmeister 8:29
Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 8:30
Oh, 

Michele Love 8:30
Absolutely. 

Rich Bennett 8:31
really? 

Michele Love 8:31
actually calling forth the vision that he gave me. You're calling it forth right now that there is to be a temp revival near water so we can do baptisms. 

Steven Hofmeister 8:41
You're 

Michele Love 8:42
But we are we are actually praying about where he wants us to go so that we can contact that person 

Steven Hofmeister 8:50
set 

Michele Love 8:50
and 

Steven Hofmeister 8:50
it up. Doesn't 

Michele Love 8:51
always have to be by water because we're looking into other means to have a little baptism. 

Rich Bennett 8:55
Right. 

Michele Love 8:56
a lot of people accept Christ and they want I mean, you biblically you get baptized right after you accept Jesus 

Rich Bennett 9:01
Right. 

Michele Love 9:01
Christ. 

Steven Hofmeister 9:02
There's 

Michele Love 9:02
So we're kind of praying that through now for God to open that door so that we can bring the camper and we are the bus we call it. And we can set up have tents and do temp revival. 

Rich Bennett 9:15
Well, we knew there's enough places around here to look at all the farmland with ponds and everything. 

Steven Hofmeister 9:20
Yeah. 

Michele Love 9:20
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 9:21
Yeah. I mean. 

Michele Love 9:21
He keeps showing 

Steven Hofmeister 9:24
me the 

Michele Love 9:25
sermon on the mount. 

Steven Hofmeister 9:27
He 

Michele Love 9:27
keeps showing me that, that, that's what I'm talking about. 

Rich Bennett 9:31
Ok. 

Michele Love 9:32
And, and so that requires feeding them. 

Rich Bennett 9:34
Right. 

Michele Love 9:47
And truth out to the folks, and, and prayed and it was just beautiful, so he keeps showing me that. And, and I'm excited about that, because, you know, we do reels and I do 

Rich Bennett 9:58
seconds, 

Michele Love 9:58
15 

Rich Bennett 9:58
yeah. 

Michele Love 9:59
But my heart is really preaching a 

Steven Hofmeister 10:02
message 

Michele Love 10:03
affect, that, that 

Steven Hofmeister 10:04
that 

Michele Love 10:04
will 

Steven Hofmeister 10:04
will 

Michele Love 10:05
affect 

Rich Bennett 10:05
my heart. 

Michele Love 10:05
But I also like to be right there with 

Rich Bennett 10:07
I 

Michele Love 10:07
them. 

Rich Bennett 10:07
was just going to say, when you can see the person 

Michele Love 10:11
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 10:11
who you're touching with the word versus, you're doing a real or whatever, you can't see somebody's response. 

Michele Love 10:18
I mean, I get their comments and I get there. 

Rich Bennett 10:20
It's not the 

Michele Love 10:21
Pray 

Rich Bennett 10:21
same. 

Michele Love 10:21
for me. 

Rich Bennett 10:21
Yeah. 

Michele Love 10:22
But being live with people. 

Rich Bennett 10:25
Yeah. 

Michele Love 10:25
It makes such a big difference, because you actually see their feelings and you see how much pain they're in, and you see how much they want this. You can 

Steven Hofmeister 10:35
see, 

Michele Love 10:35
see their faith through their eyes, when they are, when they're listening and, and they're taking it all in and it's affecting and changing. It's permeating 

Rich Bennett 10:44
through them. Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 10:45
yeah. 

Rich Bennett 10:46
different. What, 

Steven Hofmeister 10:46
It's 

Rich Bennett 10:46
I mean, you think about throughout the 

Steven Hofmeister 10:49
country, 

Rich Bennett 10:49
all these different 

Steven Hofmeister 10:51
all these 

Rich Bennett 10:51
festivals and everything that 

Steven Hofmeister 10:52
different 

Rich Bennett 10:53
people 

Steven Hofmeister 10:53
people, 

Rich Bennett 10:53
have or, or even, like a farmer's market, something like that. 

Michele Love 10:58
have 

Rich Bennett 10:58
the bus, 

Steven Hofmeister 10:58
Just 

Rich Bennett 10:59
just, yeah, just to pull up and you know you're going to people are going to come over there. 

Steven Hofmeister 11:05
Right. 

Rich Bennett 11:05
I love that. 

Michele Love 11:06
I do too. And I think hands on if you think about it, all through the gospels, Jesus went out. 

Rich Bennett 11:15
Mm hmm. 

Steven Hofmeister 11:15
He did 

Michele Love 11:16
all through acts. They all went out Paul and olive. 

Rich Bennett 11:20
Yeah. Matthew 

Michele Love 11:21
Steven until he got murdered, but they all went out. 

Steven Hofmeister 11:25
All right. 

Michele Love 11:25
And, and they weren't in buildings very few times where they in 

Steven Hofmeister 11:30
right. 

Michele Love 11:30
The 

Rich Bennett 11:30
Yeah. 

Michele Love 11:30
dogs in and cyber knackle. They weren't very few times. 

Rich Bennett 11:33
Well, and let's face it for some strange reason. A lot of people aren't going into churches lately. So why not bring the church to them? 

Michele Love 11:43
That's what we've 

Steven Hofmeister 11:44
been doing for centuries. 

Rich Bennett 11:45
Yeah. 

Michele Love 11:45
So we go park in. We've been right up the street here at Woodbridge. We were there for a month. Then we moved to, was it Edge? 

Steven Hofmeister 11:53
Edgewater fell, which we 

Rich Bennett 11:54
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 11:54
were a little bit. 

Michele Love 11:55
Then we went to, we've been an Aberdeen for a while. He's about to move us. 

Rich Bennett 11:59
Mm 

Michele Love 12:00
He'll 

Rich Bennett 12:00
hmm. 

Michele Love 12:00
let us know. 

Rich Bennett 12:01
Right. 

Michele Love 12:02
it's coming, I'll show you where I'll show you went. And, and 

Steven Hofmeister 12:05
So, 

Michele Love 12:05
so, 

Rich Bennett 12:06
when 

Michele Love 12:06
not quite sure yet, even where we're going to be Sunday. I don't know yet. I've been pray, I'm like, Lord, show us where. And then all of a sudden someone said, I want to get baptized. I'm like, okay, now show us where with water. And so we're listening. Because we baptized before at the Gump out of River. 

Rich Bennett 12:24
I was just going to say at mariner point. 

Michele Love 12:26
No, no, what about Mariner 

Steven Hofmeister 12:29
point? 

Michele Love 12:29
We were at. Right on Harford Road. We're harford in Baltimore County. 

Steven Hofmeister 12:35
Right there at the 

Michele Love 12:36
Right where 

Steven Hofmeister 12:37
county. 

Michele Love 12:37
mama Missha's 

Rich Bennett 12:37
used. Yes, okay. 

Michele Love 12:38
We've been there, but like Georgie said to me last night, I said, I don't know if we can fit the bus there. 

Steven Hofmeister 12:44
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 12:44
Yeah. 

Michele Love 12:45
I don't know if the bus would literally take up the whole parking lot. And we don't want to upset 

Steven Hofmeister 12:48
anybody. We don't 

Michele Love 12:50
want to upset anybody. 

Steven Hofmeister 12:51
No, no, we don't 

Michele Love 12:52
want to make waves with anybody. So we 

Rich Bennett 12:55
water. 

Michele Love 12:56
waves 

Steven Hofmeister 12:58
we try to be very mindful about where we take it, where we park it. Because we don't want to interfere with business like we go to Walmart. We make a point to park back 

Rich Bennett 13:07
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 13:08
away because we don't want to interfere with anybody's business or community or whatnot. But we want to be there where we can make that impact. 

Rich Bennett 13:14
And the thing is 

Steven Hofmeister 13:15
to, 

Rich Bennett 13:17
I'm 

Steven Hofmeister 13:17
thinking like right 

Rich Bennett 13:18
now. Now Harford County Parks and Rec. All the different parks of water. Not just Mariner point. You have Eden Mill. Beautiful place. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:27
Yeah. I know. 

Rich Bennett 13:28
What's the other one? I need to see light. Estuary. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:32
Yeah, okay. Right there. That's what I've been doing, right? 

Rich Bennett 13:35
Yeah. The bus driver. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:36
I think that is bus. 

Rich Bennett 13:37
Yeah, 

Michele Love 13:38
that's right. 

Rich Bennett 13:39
All 40, 

Michele Love 13:40
right? Yeah, we're all 40 in Abington. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:41
Abington. 

Rich Bennett 13:41
Yeah, Abington. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:42
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 13:43
Yeah. 

Michele Love 13:43
Maybe we'll. I mean, and the 

Rich Bennett 13:45
And 

Michele Love 13:45
parks. 

Rich Bennett 13:45
even marinas 

Michele Love 13:46
as long as we're 

Steven Hofmeister 13:47
are 

Michele Love 13:47
not selling anything they don't mind if 

Rich Bennett 13:49
exactly 

Michele Love 13:49
we come. 

Steven Hofmeister 13:49
Right. That's a good 

Michele Love 13:50
point. So maybe one of those two. I like to eat 

Rich Bennett 13:53
and meal 

Michele Love 13:54
Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 13:54
one. 

Michele Love 13:54
I've kayaked from there. 

Rich Bennett 13:56
Yeah, and you could I could 

Steven Hofmeister 13:58
it 

Rich Bennett 13:58
see 

Steven Hofmeister 13:58
still 

Rich Bennett 13:58
open service being there. 

Michele Love 14:00
I like that. 

Rich Bennett 14:01
It's a 

Michele Love 14:02
We 

Rich Bennett 14:02
beautiful. 

Michele Love 14:02
might have to get a permit for being there. Maybe 

Steven Hofmeister 14:05
I got the pavilion. Now we could rent. 

Michele Love 14:07
That might be an idea. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:08
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 14:09
Yeah, I mean, 

Steven Hofmeister 14:09
good 

Rich Bennett 14:09
it's 

Steven Hofmeister 14:09
idea. Thank you, Rich. 

Michele Love 14:10
Thank 

Rich Bennett 14:11
It's, 

Michele Love 14:11
you. 

Rich Bennett 14:12
I mean, 

Michele Love 14:12
see that's 

Rich Bennett 14:14
every 

Michele Love 14:14
how God does it. 

Rich Bennett 14:15
See, every time you and I sit there. Yeah, I did talk somehow or another ideas 

Steven Hofmeister 14:19
keep 

Michele Love 14:19
abounds. Poor Zen. 

Rich Bennett 14:20
They keep bouncing. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:21
I can get the bus. I can get the bus not parking lot. 

Rich Bennett 14:24
Oh, yeah, it's a good. It's a big enough. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:25
Maybe, 

Rich Bennett 14:27
maybe 

Michele Love 14:27
that's where we're going. 

Rich Bennett 14:27
Speaking of email, did you know the house up there? Yeah, you know, that's for sale. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:35
Really? 

Rich Bennett 14:35
Yes. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:36
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 14:39
And I would think it would be on a historical. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:42
Yeah, the register, 

Rich Bennett 14:43
Because it's 

Steven Hofmeister 14:43
yeah. 

Rich Bennett 14:43
that old. 

Michele Love 14:44
It's planned to go. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:45
Wow. We'll 

Michele Love 14:45
know that we'll find out. That's what we're doing today. And we 

Steven Hofmeister 14:46
will. Okay. 

Michele Love 14:47
About the property. 

Steven Hofmeister 14:48
I love you. No. 

Rich Bennett 14:49
Yeah. I mean, it's a 

Michele Love 14:50
Great. 

Rich Bennett 14:51
beautiful. I will. It could 

Steven Hofmeister 14:53
be bad. it's 

Rich Bennett 14:55
But 

Steven Hofmeister 14:55
one of 

Rich Bennett 14:55
the properties there too. Property the park in RV. 

Steven Hofmeister 15:00
I'm 

Rich Bennett 15:02
just I'm just saying. 

Michele Love 15:03
I love it. Thank you, God. You are so amazing. 

Rich Bennett 15:07
I 

Steven Hofmeister 15:08
said, places that we got as email. That's awesome. 

Rich Bennett 15:11
Crazy question. Is there is do you have a website for the RV? 

Michele Love 15:18
It's tied into the voice of truth website, 

Rich Bennett 15:20
It 

Michele Love 15:20
which 

Rich Bennett 15:20
makes 

Michele Love 15:20
is 

Rich Bennett 15:21
sense. 

Michele Love 15:21
voice of truth us a. org. 

Steven Hofmeister 15:23
But if they wanted to go to an actual page specifically about the bus, it's hope on wheels. VOTC. US. 

Rich Bennett 15:31
Okay. And I ask that because if people want to have you guys, 

especially 

Steven Hofmeister 15:39
you 

Rich Bennett 15:39
this, you know, they want to do a day of baptisms and service, which I think would be great. 

Steven Hofmeister 15:45
know, 

Rich Bennett 15:46
And 

well, if that 

Steven Hofmeister 15:48
happens, God, it's going to happen just because God. 

Rich Bennett 15:51
Leaving them. 

Steven Hofmeister 15:52
Right. 

Rich Bennett 15:52
It shows you other areas where you could always set up. 

Michele Love 15:57
It's amazing how much rich is speaking for all the visions. 

Steven Hofmeister 16:02
I know you 

Michele Love 16:03
are literally 

Steven Hofmeister 16:04
speaking. And 

Michele Love 16:05
I haven't even spoken 

Steven Hofmeister 16:06
them for 

Michele Love 16:06
you to everybody. You're speaking for things that are in my 

Steven Hofmeister 16:11
journal, 

Rich Bennett 16:11
we always have that connection. Don't know what he is. Are we twins? 

Michele Love 16:19
I don't 

Steven Hofmeister 16:19
know. Is not a good. 

Michele Love 16:21
I love rich. 

Rich Bennett 16:23
I 

Steven Hofmeister 16:23
wonder. 

Rich Bennett 16:25
Another crazy question because I can see this happening because there's two of 

Steven Hofmeister 16:30
you 

Rich Bennett 16:30
both drive. 

Has there have there been any thoughts about adding a second RV. Because it's facing 

Steven Hofmeister 16:40
be 

Rich Bennett 16:41
you can't 

Steven Hofmeister 16:41
every way. 

Michele Love 16:43
Adding a back up to the RV. 

It's been a discussion, but not on the table yet 

Rich Bennett 16:52
Okay. 

Michele Love 16:52
because of funding. 

Steven Hofmeister 16:53
Yeah, we have 

Michele Love 16:54
to be careful with jumping, but not careful, but 

Rich Bennett 16:57
Rol. No, you're 

Michele Love 16:58
He'd pray 

Rich Bennett 16:59
right. 

Michele Love 16:59
about 

Rich Bennett 16:59
You doing 

Michele Love 16:59
the 

Rich Bennett 16:59
it. 

Michele Love 17:00
next phase. 

Rich Bennett 17:00
You'll know 

Michele Love 17:01
but 

Rich Bennett 17:01
when 

Michele Love 17:01
I'm in agreement 

Rich Bennett 17:02
time. 

Michele Love 17:02
with you. Yeah, 

Rich Bennett 17:03
Yeah, 

Michele Love 17:03
because I don't I think it's the vision he's, he's showing me the things he keeps downloading in me. Are this thing once we start going out. Out of Maryland. 

Rich Bennett 17:14
Yeah. 

Michele Love 17:15
and people 

Steven Hofmeister 17:16
Because 

Michele Love 17:16
because we're 

Steven Hofmeister 17:16
we're 

Michele Love 17:16
on all social media. Once people see, oh my god, they're not in Maryland anymore. They're in Connecticut or 

Steven Hofmeister 17:22
they're 

Michele Love 17:24
Hampshire, or they're in like I want to go to Michigan right now for, you know, 

Rich Bennett 17:27
in 

Michele Love 17:27
other 

Rich Bennett 17:28
New 

Michele Love 17:28
reasons. 

There's I think that what's going to happen is that's going to happen. That's what he keeps showing me. It's coming where you will have to say, no, we can't make it because we don't have a second RV. But I think as we go to these places, we're going to be pulling people in with us. 

Rich Bennett 17:49
I was just going to say I see this and and those of you listening, I don't want you to believe this is like a cult. 

Michele Love 17:57
No, 

Rich Bennett 17:59
because you see this with cult. 

Michele Love 18:00
I hear 

Steven Hofmeister 18:00
you, but 

Rich Bennett 18:01
I can see this growing. Where when you start going outside of Maryland, you're going to have a caravan of followers with you. Just like Jesus did 

Michele Love 18:12
to help us, 

Rich Bennett 18:13
yeah. 

Michele Love 18:14
Right now 

Rich Bennett 18:15
he's putting it. It'll be a ministry. 

Michele Love 18:17
He's putting together the 12 right now. 

Steven Hofmeister 18:19
Alright, I think others are going to see what we're doing and they're going to want to start. I'm relating and doing that too. 

Rich Bennett 18:24
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 18:24
And you know, so much said to you, well, what if some would have another church or something does this as well? I said, 

Michele Love 18:29
God. 

Steven Hofmeister 18:29
I say, bring it on. Let's get together and have a fast. Let's have a festival of, quote, church buses. Let's get together. Let's worship and praise together. 

Rich Bennett 18:38
Exactly. Virtues 

Steven Hofmeister 18:39
Wagon, circle, let them and just 

Rich Bennett 18:41
don't 

Steven Hofmeister 18:42
have at 

Rich Bennett 18:42
compete. 

Steven Hofmeister 18:43
it. Right. 

Rich Bennett 18:44
They do, but they 

Steven Hofmeister 18:46
go 

Rich Bennett 18:46
shouldn't 

Steven Hofmeister 18:46
for I agreed. 

Michele Love 18:47
That's why anything that 

Steven Hofmeister 18:49
Misha 

Michele Love 18:49
Mama was out of the box. 

Rich Bennett 18:52
Yeah. 

Michele Love 18:52
So 

Steven Hofmeister 18:53
this 

Michele Love 18:53
no, 

Steven Hofmeister 18:53
is 

Michele Love 18:54
no different. And and you know, whatever people have to say about what we're doing, I told him to take it out with God. 

Steven Hofmeister 19:01
You're right on. 

Michele Love 19:02
You just need to take it out with 

Rich Bennett 19:03
because 

Michele Love 19:03
God 

Rich Bennett 19:03
he's the one that's telling you. 

Michele Love 19:05
He's out of the box. 

Rich Bennett 19:06
Yeah. 

Michele Love 19:07
And so we just think that if more people would come on board, like there's too many people doing the same thing. 

Rich Bennett 19:12
Right. 

Steven Hofmeister 19:14
People 

Michele Love 19:14
will come on board and say, well, this 

Steven Hofmeister 19:16
is your part. This is your part. Let's come 

Michele Love 19:18
and do it together. I think it would just work so much better. It would be so much smoother, 

Steven Hofmeister 19:23
together 

Michele Love 19:23
you know, and what we're doing has never been done in the state of Maryland. I don't know where it's been done. I don't know if there's 

Steven Hofmeister 19:29
ever seen 

Michele Love 19:30
bus. 

Steven Hofmeister 19:30
that we 

Michele Love 19:31
I'm sure there 

Steven Hofmeister 19:31
were 

Michele Love 19:31
is 

Steven Hofmeister 19:31
in 

Michele Love 19:31
an 

Steven Hofmeister 19:32
America 

Michele Love 19:32
America, but I don't know where it is. We've I've looked it up. I've researched it so many times. But in the state of Maryland, this has never been done. Now they have buses that pick 

Steven Hofmeister 19:42
people up and take 

Michele Love 19:43
them to church. 

Rich Bennett 19:43
Right. 

Michele Love 19:45
not buses that physically go out and say, 

Rich Bennett 19:48
But 

Michele Love 19:48
we are the church. We're bringing it to you. You know, and so I think, we have to just stay in line with where he has us now, praying forth 

Steven Hofmeister 20:03
yeah. And 

Michele Love 20:04
everything that he's calling us to do because it takes people and it takes it takes divine direction. out to know where to go. I mean, I can tell you some days, we're like, I'm feeling God's telling us to go here and we jump in the bus and we go there. And there's a person there. There's a situation there. You know, even if one person comes on the bus to receive whatever meals, whatever, that's that's enough, but that 

Steven Hofmeister 20:32
And 

Michele Love 20:32
one person 

Steven Hofmeister 20:32
person 

Michele Love 20:32
goes 

Steven Hofmeister 20:33
goes 

Michele Love 20:33
out and tells 

Steven Hofmeister 20:34
everybody else. 

Michele Love 20:35
And then 

Steven Hofmeister 20:36
the next time we 

Michele Love 20:37
up, show up, other people come because they're like, I need this. I need that. But most of the time and Steve can attest to this. 

Steven Hofmeister 20:43
show 

Michele Love 20:44
Sometimes people just drive up to the bus, 

Rich Bennett 20:47
right. 

Michele Love 20:47
And they're like, what is this all about? And we say, we're here for, you know, if you have needs, we're here to pray for you. And they need prayer. 

Rich Bennett 20:55
Yes, 

Steven Hofmeister 20:56
I 

Michele Love 20:56
would say that's 80% of the people that come to the bus, maybe 60, they need prayer only. They don't need anything. They don't 

Steven Hofmeister 21:03
want anything else. 

Michele Love 21:04
want anything. 

Steven Hofmeister 21:05
They 

Michele Love 21:05
They 

Steven Hofmeister 21:05
don't 

Michele Love 21:05
don't need anything. They just want prayer. 

Rich Bennett 21:08
Does it have a trailer? It 

Steven Hofmeister 21:11
It does. 

Rich Bennett 21:11
does. 

Steven Hofmeister 21:11
Yes indeed. We've got one of those like trees that slide in it right now. We're carrying 

Rich Bennett 21:17
a 

Steven Hofmeister 21:18
grill and a gas bottle and whatnot. On it, but yeah, it does have a hitch. It does have a towing capacity to it 

Rich Bennett 21:23
because 

Michele Love 21:24
go 

Rich Bennett 21:24
you 

Michele Love 21:24
ahead, you said 

Rich Bennett 21:25
you're going to have to get, you mentioned it earlier Steve before we 

Steven Hofmeister 21:28
start. 

I'm 

Rich Bennett 21:35
thinking of the bat. No, I'm thinking of the baptism part. You know, you go somewhere like deep creek lake or whatever, 

Steven Hofmeister 21:42
right. You 

Rich Bennett 21:42
have the boat. If it's a pontoon, even better, because you can fit several people out there. 

Michele Love 21:47
Everybody out, 

Rich Bennett 21:47
Have the tent revival, but whoever wants to, you know, and then take people out to get 

Michele Love 21:51
a 

Rich Bennett 21:51
baptized 

Michele Love 21:52
pontoon 

Rich Bennett 21:52
on the boat. 

Michele Love 21:53
out. 

Rich Bennett 21:53
Yeah, 

Michele Love 21:53
love it. 

Steven Hofmeister 21:54
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 21:54
Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sorry, but you're going to have to start. You have to stop calling it the bus and call it the vote. 

Michele Love 22:00
The vote? 

Rich Bennett 22:01
Yes. 

Michele Love 22:02
Voice 

Rich Bennett 22:02
of truth. No. The vehicle of 

Steven Hofmeister 22:04
Vehicle 

Michele Love 22:05
truth. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:05
truth. 

Michele Love 22:06
Oh, I like that. The 

Steven Hofmeister 22:06
Oh, 

Michele Love 22:06
bot. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:06
wow. I like that. 

Michele Love 22:08
That's pretty cool. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:09
That's 

Rich Bennett 22:09
what it 

Michele Love 22:09
is. It 

Steven Hofmeister 22:11
is. Yes, it is. 

Michele Love 22:12
If you look at 

Rich Bennett 22:13
because 

Steven Hofmeister 22:13
that, 

Rich Bennett 22:13
if you say buzz, everybody, you know, buzz has so many different me. 

Michele Love 22:16
I like 

Rich Bennett 22:17
I like that. There may 

Michele Love 22:17
that. 

Rich Bennett 22:17
be different things. This is special. It's more special in a bus. It's a 

Michele Love 22:22
bot. I'm going to say yes. I agree 

Steven Hofmeister 22:24
I 

Michele Love 22:24
with. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:24
like that. 

Michele Love 22:25
I 

Rich Bennett 22:25
See? 

Michele Love 22:26
really 

Rich Bennett 22:26
Yeah. 

Michele Love 22:26
do. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:26
Yeah. Bus just the 

Michele Love 22:27
bot. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:28
Bus just kind of happened, because it's kind of a generic term. 

Rich Bennett 22:31
Exactly. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:31
When they're talking, 

Michele Love 22:32
but 

Rich Bennett 22:32
think 

Michele Love 22:32
I do 

Rich Bennett 22:32
what you guys have is not 

Steven Hofmeister 22:33
It's 

Rich Bennett 22:33
just. 

special. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:37
That's good. I like 

Michele Love 22:37
that. God. 

Rich Bennett 22:37
It's unique. 

Michele Love 22:38
Good. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:39
It's 

Michele Love 22:39
It's 

Steven Hofmeister 22:39
good. We're 

Rich Bennett 22:40
unique. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:40
going to change it. Yeah. 

Michele Love 22:41
you. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:42
Thank 

Rich Bennett 22:42
Oh, wait a minute. Oh, I was going to say not to sign it on it. 

Steven Hofmeister 22:45
No. No. How we 

Michele Love 22:47
read 

Steven Hofmeister 22:47
how we 

Michele Love 22:47
say bus. 

Rich Bennett 22:48
Yeah, 

Michele Love 22:48
it doesn't 

Rich Bennett 22:49
on. 

Michele Love 22:49
say buss 

Rich Bennett 22:49
Okay, good. It 

Michele Love 22:50
says hope on 

Steven Hofmeister 22:51
blessing's 

Michele Love 22:51
wheels, 

Steven Hofmeister 22:52
own blessings on the word. 

Michele Love 22:53
Yeah, I like that. That's what. And then there's a cross one side is across where they think it's sunrise and the other side is across with the sunset. 

And they're driving it or George is driving it. People are just like, wow. just sitting there in all 

Rich Bennett 23:19
Yeah. 

Michele Love 23:20
hunk and they hunk their horns. They're like, Hey, you know, and then some people are like, it's the voice of truth. That's the voice of truth. This is cold. I'm seeing the bus. But yeah, I agree 

Steven Hofmeister 23:30
They're 

Michele Love 23:30
with that. 

Rich Bennett 23:31
You have to get a giant when you set up 

Michele Love 23:35
banner 

Rich Bennett 23:36
that just 

Michele Love 23:36
for 

Rich Bennett 23:36
says 

Because think about it when people, 

Michele Love 23:41
how? 

Rich Bennett 23:41
when 

Michele Love 23:41
I like that. 

Rich Bennett 23:42
it comes to religion, it's not usually why I got this, what, you know, what can you do? It's how, 

Steven Hofmeister 23:48
how nice. 

Rich Bennett 23:49
The hope on wheels. I'm coming up. 

Steven Hofmeister 23:53
Hey, 

Rich Bennett 23:55
we 

Steven Hofmeister 23:55
love 

Michele Love 23:56
input. 

Steven Hofmeister 23:56
the Yeah, we love the input. 

Michele Love 23:58
I love the bot. 

Steven Hofmeister 24:00
I 

Michele Love 24:00
I 

Steven Hofmeister 24:00
love 

Michele Love 24:00
love the 

Steven Hofmeister 24:00
the. 

Michele Love 24:00
HW because 

Rich Bennett 24:02
you. 

Michele Love 24:02
it's, if 

Rich Bennett 24:02
It's a question. It's always asked when it comes to God. How? How does he do it? 

Michele Love 24:08
We already know why he does it. And we already know when he did it. But we don't people want to know. How is this 

Steven Hofmeister 24:16
possible? 

Michele Love 24:17
How is this 

Steven Hofmeister 24:18
possible? 

Rich Bennett 24:19
That 

Michele Love 24:19
I can be 

Steven Hofmeister 24:20
saved 

Michele Love 24:21
and go to 

Steven Hofmeister 24:21
heaven 

Michele Love 24:22
heaven 

Steven Hofmeister 24:22
and 

Michele Love 24:22
and 

Steven Hofmeister 24:22
be 

Michele Love 24:22
be forgiveness of 

Steven Hofmeister 24:23
forgiven 

Michele Love 24:23
and 

Steven Hofmeister 24:23
and 

Michele Love 24:23
reconcile back to God because 

Steven Hofmeister 24:25
recognize 

Michele Love 24:25
of this man, Jesus 

Steven Hofmeister 24:25
Jesus 

Michele Love 24:26
Christ. How is that possible? 

Rich Bennett 24:28
And something I've mentioned to you before because I've always said I wanted to do either one or two episodes on this and it goes along with the how? How do you listen to God and how do you talk to God? Because a lot of people, a lot of people don't know how to pray. They don't have a clue. You know, they always think they're, you have to ask and that's the only time. A lot of 

Steven Hofmeister 24:51
people 

Rich Bennett 24:51
pray and they're always asking for something and I said this several 

Michele Love 24:55
times that last 

Steven Hofmeister 24:55
right. 

Rich Bennett 24:55
night. Yeah, How many times do people pray? Thank him. I said a prayer the other night. I said three actually four words. 

Steven Hofmeister 25:05
I was it. I love God. 

Rich Bennett 25:06
I was my prayer. 

Michele Love 25:08
don't 

Steven Hofmeister 25:08
I 

Michele Love 25:09
know. 

Rich Bennett 25:09
Yeah, I 

Michele Love 25:11
acknowledge him as all he 

Steven Hofmeister 25:12
wants. 

Rich Bennett 25:13
Yes, 

Michele Love 25:13
he just wants you to acknowledge that he's there. He wants to build a relationship with you. That's all he wants. He just wants you to know you can trust him. 

Rich Bennett 25:21
Yes. 

Michele Love 25:22
And I think the biggest glitch that people have is you know, when you are in a relationship, you're seeing that person. touching that 

Steven Hofmeister 25:34
Right. 

Michele Love 25:34
person. 

Steven Hofmeister 25:35
You're 

Michele Love 25:35
You're hugging, you're having a verbal conversation. They're talking back. You're talking. And I think people have this misconception that when they begin to pray, they're just praying to air. 

Rich Bennett 25:46
Yeah. 

Michele Love 25:46
And the Bible says when you call on the name of the Lord, he inclines his ear. That means he bends down. He bends down to hear you. 

Steven Hofmeister 25:56
I 

Michele Love 25:56
think the greatest challenge for believers is they say this beautiful prayer in Jesus' name, they walk away. They don't listen because he responds. I mean, that's why they don't believe he's there. 

Rich Bennett 26:15
Yeah. 

Michele Love 26:15
Because if you know he's there, when you pray, you kind of sit and be still for a minute and say, I'm here. If you want to tell me anything, I'm here and I'm listening. 

Rich Bennett 26:28
And listen. Yeah, 

Michele Love 26:29
and you just sit there. You don't fidget. You don't have your phone. You don't, I mean, I might take my journal and Bible in with me when I'm in my quiet place, but you have to give time to rest God for God to respond. How will you know how to obey if you don't wait for the answer? 

Rich Bennett 26:46
Exactly. 

Michele Love 26:47
What did Jesus do? He only did what the Father told him to do. 

Rich Bennett 26:50
He 

Michele Love 26:50
only spoke with the Father told him to say, because the Holy Spirit was upon him. The Holy Spirit was the connector. 

Rich Bennett 26:56
Yeah. 

Michele Love 26:57
Listen, God. It's the same thing for us. It's the same thing. 

Rich Bennett 27:02
He, he actually spoke to me not too long ago 

Michele Love 27:05
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 27:05
because I was seriously thinking about giving this up to the podcast. 

Michele Love 27:09
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 27:11
And I prayed to him and I just told him, I said, I don't know what to do because, you know, you can only talk about so many things, so many. You talk over a thousand 

Steven Hofmeister 27:26
people. 

Rich Bennett 27:26
You've been doing this for almost 11 years. It can, it can become overwhelming. 

Michele Love 27:33
It probably feels tedious too. 

Rich Bennett 27:35
Yes. 

Michele Love 27:35
So you probably think to yourself, did I already do this? Did I do this already? 

Rich Bennett 27:40
But he, and it was I it was when I went to bed. It was in my prayer and in my dreams, because I do believe guy comes to us 

Steven Hofmeister 27:49
dream. 

Rich Bennett 27:49
in our 

Steven Hofmeister 27:50
Oh, actually. 

Rich Bennett 27:50
A lot. 

Steven Hofmeister 27:51
He 

Rich Bennett 27:53
gave me the reason to keep going. And it's because you're making a difference and people need to hear other people's stories. And raise awareness. And this is the platform to do it 

Steven Hofmeister 28:05
on. 

Rich Bennett 28:05
And I woke up. I was just like so excited. Yes. And just ready 

Michele Love 28:13
Right on. Ready 

Rich Bennett 28:13
to go again. Now I get upset like yesterday. I had a, I had to reschedule. I have to think I had to reschedule on with you too. 

Michele Love 28:21
to go. Yes. 

Rich Bennett 28:21
I don't like it when I have to reschedule podcast recording, but things come up. 

Michele Love 28:25
That's right. 

Steven Hofmeister 28:26
Right? He was coming 

Rich Bennett 28:26
Yes. 

Steven Hofmeister 28:26
down. Right. 

Rich Bennett 28:27
But things come up. Like yesterday, my, um, what is 

Steven Hofmeister 28:31
today's Friday? 

Rich Bennett 28:33
Friday. 

Steven Hofmeister 28:33
So 

Rich Bennett 28:33
So when is 

Steven Hofmeister 28:33
Wednesday, 

Rich Bennett 28:34
because my wife first had a city in her 

Michele Love 28:36
car. Oh, no. 

Rich Bennett 28:37
Yeah. 

some reason because I keep, I got one of those bricks. That's it's a battery jumper. 

Steven Hofmeister 28:47
For 

Rich Bennett 28:48
Always keep it my car. We went to keep it, I put it in 

Steven Hofmeister 28:51
And 

Rich Bennett 28:51
her. I 

was getting ready to look for us and take the back of the car. I think my bricks in there. So she was able to use that. She got 

Steven Hofmeister 29:01
And 

Rich Bennett 29:02
of course that's one, one of the times I do ask God to, to God or home 

Michele Love 29:09
safely. 

Rich Bennett 29:10
Um, and then the next day, I was supposed to have record, but I had to schedule it because I had 

Steven Hofmeister 29:17
get 

Rich Bennett 29:17
to 

of course, everything's okay. This star solenoid is going to cost as much as the breaks 

Steven Hofmeister 29:25
and 

Rich Bennett 29:25
are going to cost as much. Yeah, you're going through all these scenarios. The thing that was most unlikely to be was the 

Steven Hofmeister 29:33
bad battery. 

Michele Love 29:35
Okay, 

Rich Bennett 29:36
it was the battery. 

Steven Hofmeister 29:37
Oh, wow. 

Rich Bennett 29:38
Probably the least expensive thing to 

Steven Hofmeister 29:41
Right. 

Rich Bennett 29:41
which 

Michele Love 29:41
God. 

Rich Bennett 29:41
even batteries are not cheap. Right, but 

Michele Love 29:44
much better than the whole. 

Rich Bennett 29:45
good thing is the guy emailed me back because I emailed him right away and going through my emails and I'm still trying to catch up on this more, he emailed me back every schedule. So it's like, 

Steven Hofmeister 29:58
The 

Rich Bennett 29:59
that's all I said. I feel really really knows. Yeah. He 

Michele Love 30:01
knows the path that that you are 

Steven Hofmeister 30:05
on. 

Michele Love 30:06
Which is the last 

Steven Hofmeister 30:08
of the rest of us. We'll know straight and 

Michele Love 30:10
narrow 

Steven Hofmeister 30:10
a 

Michele Love 30:10
path. It's 

Steven Hofmeister 30:11
Christian fiction. 

Michele Love 30:12
I have to write this equal to it, but I would. 

Rich Bennett 30:14
Ooh. It's 

Michele Love 30:15
really a cool book, but 

Steven Hofmeister 30:16
path straight in our path. It's called the 

Michele Love 30:17
it's 

Steven Hofmeister 30:17
straight 

Michele Love 30:17
the 

Steven Hofmeister 30:17
in our path. It's the path that God's 

Michele Love 30:19
self. 

Steven Hofmeister 30:19
God 

Michele Love 30:19
Got you on and we come off the path when we try to take care of things ourselves. 

Steven Hofmeister 30:24
was our 

Rich Bennett 30:25
Yeah. Well, 

Michele Love 30:25
when 

Steven Hofmeister 30:25
worry 

Michele Love 30:25
we 

Steven Hofmeister 30:26
when we have 

Michele Love 30:26
worry when we have 

Steven Hofmeister 30:27
fear. 

Michele Love 30:27
Well, because that's all everything. The enemy wants 

Steven Hofmeister 30:29
to do ever once. 

Rich Bennett 30:30
Right 

Michele Love 30:30
all the time, but the path knowing that there's scripture that says a, a human may think about his plans, but God directs his path. 

Rich Bennett 30:43
Yeah. 

Michele Love 30:43
So as you talk to God, even though simple God, please protect my wife from being on the side of the road in the city, you know, he does. He heard you. You know, Lord, please don't let it be all this huge expense. Because you know, Lord, where we are in life, please God, please give him mercy on us. I always say, please have mercy and favor on us when something goes wrong with our vehicles and the RV and the 

Steven Hofmeister 31:07
RV. And he

Michele Love 31:08
does because he knows what he can do anything. 

Rich Bennett 31:14
Yeah, 

Michele Love 31:15
he's waiting for us to ask. That's where people get tripped up. 

Rich Bennett 31:22
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Michele Love 32:42
First, they don't listen, and they, like I have people say to me all the time, if God, if God is really God, why are all these kids getting taken? If God is really God, why does people spend so many people die of cancer? And I'm like, well, there's this thing called Free Will, which I hate, but it is a thing. And people don't always understand a gracious God he is, and the way God operates is through prayer. 

Steven Hofmeister 33:10
And 

Michele Love 33:10
they're like, but he already knows, I'm like, he does. But think about prayer, you're building confidence and trust in the Lord. You're literally saying, God, I don't know what to do. God, I love you. God help me in this situation with this relationship, with this car, with our finances, with my health. You know, all he wants is relationship. 

Rich Bennett 33:37
Yeah. 

Michele Love 33:38
And what better way to do it than to pray. Which is 

Steven Hofmeister 33:42
talking 

Michele Love 33:43
to God. 

Rich Bennett 33:44
Yeah. 

Michele Love 33:45
And I think 

Steven Hofmeister 33:45
Yeah. 

Michele Love 33:46
with 

Steven Hofmeister 33:46
Yeah. 

Michele Love 33:46
prayer because you were mentioning how people get tripped up over prayer. All they have to do, it's like you and I talking right now. This is how I talk to God. 

Rich Bennett 33:53
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 33:53
All right. 

Michele Love 33:53
with 

Steven Hofmeister 33:53
With a 

Michele Love 33:53
a reverential fear because he's God. You know, I would never say, hey, dude, what's up, God? You know, 

Steven Hofmeister 33:59
somebody never 

Michele Love 34:00
say that to God. 

Rich Bennett 34:02
To be what it was, 

Steven Hofmeister 34:03
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 34:03
what it is. 

Steven Hofmeister 34:04
It's going on G. 

Michele Love 34:06
Right. 

Steven Hofmeister 34:07
Right. 

Rich Bennett 34:07
The OG. 

Michele Love 34:10
we would not do that. 

Steven Hofmeister 34:11
No, 

Michele Love 34:12
But 

Steven Hofmeister 34:12
but 

Michele Love 34:12
I do 

Steven Hofmeister 34:12
a 

Michele Love 34:12
think that God is 

Steven Hofmeister 34:13
huge sense of 

Rich Bennett 34:13
it. 

Steven Hofmeister 34:13
humor, 

Michele Love 34:14
of 

Rich Bennett 34:14
Oh, yes, 

Michele Love 34:16
but I think that if people would just have that that understanding that it's okay to worship him. It's okay to, you know, like that day in the hospital room, I just lifted up my arms and I was, I who cares? It was around. I was with God. And I think people get 

Rich Bennett 34:37
they do. I think 

Steven Hofmeister 34:38
you prayed the 

Michele Love 34:38
corner and the corner and the closet in the back of the room. Three miles down the 

Steven Hofmeister 34:40
road. Yeah. 

Michele Love 34:41
No. No. Why can't we just 

Rich Bennett 34:42
don't be ashamed? 

Steven Hofmeister 34:43
Great. 

Michele Love 34:45
If you're ashamed to pray with God in public, then you got to check your heart. 

Rich Bennett 34:49
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 34:49
Yeah. 

Michele Love 34:50
Because I just, I don't even have words for that because I don't know any other way. Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 34:56
Yeah. 

Michele Love 34:57
You know, and if somebody on the street, you see that they're in trouble, you stop, you know, and you say, how can I help you? Can I pray for you? 

Steven Hofmeister 35:06
Right. 

Michele Love 35:07
You know, and that's one of the visions he keeps showing me going out with the prayer signs. 

Rich Bennett 35:11
I had a young lady on the show not too long ago and author, go make ripples. 

Michele Love 35:20
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 35:20
What's the name of the book. 

Michele Love 35:21
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 35:21
She were talking about God and everything about making the ripples. And she brought up something, and which is a very good, I don't want to 

Steven Hofmeister 35:31
say a 

Rich Bennett 35:32
challenge. It's a good exercise for people to do. When you go out to eat, of course, I always pray before I eat anyways, but ask your server if can pray for them. it. 

Michele Love 35:47
I love 

Rich Bennett 35:47
If there's a certain prayer that they want you to. 

Michele Love 35:51
That 

Steven Hofmeister 35:51
happen here. 

Michele Love 35:51
just happened to you 

Steven Hofmeister 35:52
That 

Michele Love 35:52
just 

Steven Hofmeister 35:52
just happened 

Rich Bennett 35:53
really. 

Steven Hofmeister 35:53
I got myself in a couple of the other guys from the ministry. After church, we have one guy, very generous guy. He's always like, oh, let's go out the lunch. All right. Alright. We're gonna go out the lunch. So we go out the lunch, and we're eating there in a restaurant. And I was just compelled to look at this waitress, very sweet young lady 

Rich Bennett 36:08
Mm hmm. 

Steven Hofmeister 36:09
and go, is there something we can pray for you about? 

Rich Bennett 36:11
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 36:12
Yeah. And she was just taken back for a second. She goes, yeah, well, I'm in school. I'm working on this. I'm kind of struggling a little bit with my studies of what? And I can you pray for that? So sure. So we all kind of grab hands with her and we could make a circle right there at the table, right there in the rest of busy restaurant. And we prayed for her right then and there. Right there. And just. Just like that, if people who say, 

Michele Love 36:34
if 

Steven Hofmeister 36:35
people hear, people hear your situation 

Michele Love 36:37
and they say, oh, I'll pray for you. Or you see that? Oh, 

Rich Bennett 36:41
yeah. 

Michele Love 36:42
So I don't know if you've ever seen my post, but I don't say that. I just do a slam dunk prayer. 

Rich Bennett 36:46
Yeah. 

Michele Love 36:47
And then I usually share that person on my pages and I'll and I'll attach that prayer again. Two or three are gathered imagine if you have 

Steven Hofmeister 36:56
Right. 

Michele Love 36:56
hundreds and

I know George he had hundreds and hundreds of people praying for him. 

Rich Bennett 36:59
yeah. 

Michele Love 37:00
last week. 

Steven Hofmeister 37:01
I believe 

Michele Love 37:01
And 

Steven Hofmeister 37:01
that. And so, 

Michele Love 37:02
so, you know, I anybody who knows me, 

Steven Hofmeister 37:06
he, he, he, he knows, 

Michele Love 37:07
you 

Steven Hofmeister 37:07
I 

Michele Love 37:07
know, I mean, 

Steven Hofmeister 37:07
mean, 

Michele Love 37:07
you know, he's learned 

Steven Hofmeister 37:10
who 

Michele Love 37:10
I 

Steven Hofmeister 37:10
over 

Michele Love 37:10
am 

Steven Hofmeister 37:11
the last few years, 

Michele Love 37:21
I'm asking for prayer 

Steven Hofmeister 37:22
on 

Michele Love 37:23
any social media, which I haven't been on YouTube in a while, I gotta check 

Rich Bennett 37:27
that. 

Michele Love 37:28
I, I respond to people and people are flored, like on, uh, the TikTok is growing exponentially. 

Steven Hofmeister 37:34
I'm a fan 

Michele Love 37:35
of TikTok. 

Rich Bennett 37:35
Right. 

Michele Love 37:36
Lord said, get your butt on there a year ago. Maybe over a year ago, now I'm like, 

Steven Hofmeister 37:40
I don't 

Michele Love 37:41
I don't know 

Steven Hofmeister 37:41
know how 

Michele Love 37:41
how 

Steven Hofmeister 37:41
to 

Michele Love 37:41
to even, 

Steven Hofmeister 37:41
even... We have two TikToks. We 

Michele Love 37:44
we had 11,000 likes from 

Steven Hofmeister 37:46
had, 

Michele Love 37:46
the sermon on 

Steven Hofmeister 37:46
Sunday. Right. 

Rich Bennett 37:48
Wow. 

Michele Love 37:49
And it's just every day, it's just growing. And now people on TikTok all 

Steven Hofmeister 37:53
over 

Michele Love 37:53
the world are sending the messages saying, I've heard you pray. Things happen when you pray, because I see the. 

Steven Hofmeister 38:01
Can 

Michele Love 38:01
you please pray for me and I will stop everything I'm doing to answer. And a couple people have said to me, you respond to people on your TikTok. 

Rich Bennett 38:11
It's important. 

Michele Love 38:12
And sometimes God gives me a word for them, 

Rich Bennett 38:15
Yeah. 

Michele Love 38:15
because I operate in a prophetic. And that's not witchcraft. That's Holy Spirit is prophet. 

Rich Bennett 38:20
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 38:20
It is. 

Michele Love 38:20
saying this is not 

Steven Hofmeister 38:21
That's 

Michele Love 38:21
a 

Steven Hofmeister 38:21
why 

Michele Love 38:21
cult. This is 100% Bible. 

Steven Hofmeister 38:23
I'm 

Michele Love 38:24
And people are flored. And I'll give a word. And I'm like, I don't know what this means, but he's telling me to tell you this. And they'll come back. And they're like, I'm so crying right now. You have no idea. I was just praying about that two days ago. And that is the answer I was looking for. So like that's why I think if people understand stay with God, stay with God, stay with God, stay with God all day long. Try to make do everything you can to stay with them all day long. He'll talk to you. He'll show you things. He'll drop things in your spirit. He'll say, look to the right. Look to the left. Go over there and give them $20. Go over and buy the mammal. Do you know that's how God does it? 

Rich Bennett 39:00
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 39:01
and 

Michele Love 39:02
that's the one thing that, oh my gosh, I've been doing that kind of stuff for God for 27 years. 

Rich Bennett 39:09
That's why people need to come to the Vot. 

Steven Hofmeister 39:13
The Vot. The Vot. 

Rich Bennett 39:15
And learn 

Michele Love 39:16
I really 

have to have a shirt that says, the 

Steven Hofmeister 39:22
meat you at 

Rich Bennett 39:22
Vot. 

Steven Hofmeister 39:22
the 

Rich Bennett 39:22
Oh, 

Steven Hofmeister 39:23
me 

Michele Love 39:23
at the Vot, 

Steven Hofmeister 39:24
can 

Michele Love 39:24
and 

Steven Hofmeister 39:24
they 

Michele Love 39:24
they 

Steven Hofmeister 39:24
can say, what is that all 

Rich Bennett 39:26
That's 

Steven Hofmeister 39:27
about? 

Rich Bennett 39:28
perfect. If people are asking you about something, 

Steven Hofmeister 39:31
that's 

Rich Bennett 39:31
good marketing. 

Steven Hofmeister 39:32
That's good. 

Rich Bennett 39:33
If they're asking about it. Actually, how can people 

Steven Hofmeister 39:36
find 

Rich Bennett 39:37
where the Vot will be at 

Steven Hofmeister 39:39
out 

Rich Bennett 39:39
times? Do you guys posted on? 

Steven Hofmeister 39:41
We've kind of been a little, little, a little out of sorts this week, but that would be on that website that I gave you, which is hope one wheels. That VOTC that US that takes you right to the hope one wheels page. And that when there is or there's a donation thing one there, there's all about what the Vot is all about. 

Rich Bennett 40:02
Right. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:03
And then I also put the if we know the schedule and sometimes we don't know until the day before what we're doing it's all what the Lord says. 

Rich Bennett 40:10
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:10
But I try to keep a itinerary of what where we're going when that page as well. 

Rich Bennett 40:16
See how easy that grew on the Steve. He didn't say bust just Vot. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:21
Vot. 

Rich Bennett 40:22
Vot. He said Vot. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:22
I 

Rich Bennett 40:23
The way he said it 

Steven Hofmeister 40:24
like 

Rich Bennett 40:24
to must be the German part. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:26
that. Vot. Vot. 

Rich Bennett 40:32
What 

Steven Hofmeister 40:33
you guys 

Michele Love 40:33
do 

Steven Hofmeister 40:33
do to stop the boat? 

Yeah. That's a team. Tear. Tear. Crumpets at the moment. Yeah. He 

Michele Love 40:39
parties on the bottom like we could only be like three four. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:42
Right. 

Rich Bennett 40:42
Not on. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:43
Who 

Michele Love 40:44
knows? 

Rich Bennett 40:44
You're putting it 10 hours side of 

Steven Hofmeister 40:45
10th 

Rich Bennett 40:45
it. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:46
out. Right. You 

Michele Love 40:46
no, 

Steven Hofmeister 40:46
know, 

Michele Love 40:47
let me show that grace 

Steven Hofmeister 40:48
Grace table. 

Michele Love 40:48
room. 

Steven Hofmeister 40:48
Table. Tear room. It could be the 

Michele Love 40:49
Vot 

Steven Hofmeister 40:50
grace. 

Michele Love 40:50
room. The spirit. God. Oh, my God. The sky is the limit with God. There is 

Rich Bennett 40:58
Oh. 

Michele Love 40:58
no 

Steven Hofmeister 40:59
Oh. Amen 

Michele Love 40:59
limit with 

Steven Hofmeister 40:59
with 

Michele Love 40:59
God. You know, we just have to pray in a bay. 

Rich Bennett 41:04
Yeah. 

Michele Love 41:05
That's 

Rich Bennett 41:05
Yeah. 

Michele Love 41:05
it. 

Rich Bennett 41:06
But you know what question is. The last question. I blame Michelle's are always 

Steven Hofmeister 41:12
the last 

Rich Bennett 41:13
ask her to end prayer, but we're not going to do that yet. But is there see, I started something new too that you didn't get to deal. 

Michele Love 41:21
So 

Rich Bennett 41:21
I got to do it with both of you and you cannot pick the same numbers. But is there anything you 

Steven Hofmeister 41:25
like? Okay. 

Rich Bennett 41:26
Like to add before I before I let you pick the last questions. 

Besides people come to the VOTE and learn how 

Michele Love 41:36
the Lord keeps dropping the fence writer on my heart the book that I wrote their last book I wrote it's very short It's like 50 pages. It's fence writer and I give it away. I mean it costs like two dollars to print. 

Rich Bennett 41:49
Yeah, 

Michele Love 41:50
I he keeps telling me to tell you about it that they can I'll give it away to them. It's a book about exactly what it says. It's people that are on the fence. 

Rich Bennett 42:00
Oh, 

Michele Love 42:00
people don't want to make the commitment because they don't want to give up their life in the world. 

Rich Bennett 42:05
Right. 

Michele Love 42:06
it's about, because you know it's good 

Steven Hofmeister 42:08
It's 

Michele Love 42:08
and evil 

Steven Hofmeister 42:08
about, 

Michele Love 42:08
God and heaven and hell God and the enemy. It's a powerful short little, and I meant to bring you a copy of it today, but I was rushing out of the house. I'm sorry. I'll get you a copy. But it's called "Fence Rider." And it is, all ages have read it and given me feedback. I just had a very young college student read it. And it was the girl we gave it to at the FCA 

Steven Hofmeister 42:33
thing. Oh, neat. 

Michele Love 42:33
And she sent me an email and she said, I really need to connect with you. That book was so powerful it changed my life. 

Steven Hofmeister 42:39
Great. 

Michele Love 42:39
And I gave her three copies. I said, I don't know why, but God's telling me to give you three copies of 

Rich Bennett 42:44
Give 

Michele Love 42:44
it. 

Rich Bennett 42:44
them. 

Michele Love 42:44
And I give it away. 

Rich Bennett 42:45
Yeah. 

Michele Love 42:47
because the 

Steven Hofmeister 42:47
The 

Michele Love 42:47
message 

Steven Hofmeister 42:48
message, 

Michele Love 42:49
is, it's, Steve read it. Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 42:52
yeah. 

Michele Love 42:52
And 

Steven Hofmeister 42:52
Just 

Michele Love 42:52
I wrote it. But, actually, I didn't read it, the Holy Spirit read it. But it's, if they want, if they want, if they're not sure if they're trying to figure it out, 

Rich Bennett 43:01
I'll 

Michele Love 43:02
get them, I'll get their book in the hands. I will send it to him. I will deliver it to him. It's a powerful read about why you shouldn't wait any longer. 

Steven Hofmeister 43:11
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 43:11
Because 

Michele Love 43:12
Christ is coming back. I mean, look at everything that's happening in the world, is 

Rich Bennett 43:16
on the back of 

Michele Love 43:16
times. It is. I mean, 

Steven Hofmeister 43:18
it is. It is. It is. It's real, 

Michele Love 43:19
But, it's that book that God said, I need this done. And I literally had to cut off all the duties at the Holy Sentry. 

Steven Hofmeister 43:30
yes. 

Michele Love 43:30
And I said, I've got to finish fence writer. 

Steven Hofmeister 43:32
Yes, she had really had to zone in 

Michele Love 43:34
And 

Steven Hofmeister 43:34
on it. 

Michele Love 43:34
I, I zoned him for a couple of days, because for some reason, I'm able to write books in very short period of time. But since the 

Steven Hofmeister 43:39
I've got the 

Michele Love 43:39
voice 

Steven Hofmeister 43:39
voice of 

Michele Love 43:39
of Truth 

Steven Hofmeister 43:39
Truth Center. 

Michele Love 43:40
Center, it's taking me a little longer 

Steven Hofmeister 43:41
to write the books because we 

Michele Love 43:43
have so many other duties. But I'm, I, he impressed on my heart to tell you, get it to you. I'll give you copies if you want 

Rich Bennett 43:52
to 

Michele Love 43:52
to 

Rich Bennett 43:52
him. 

Michele Love 43:53
give 

Rich Bennett 43:53
I 

Michele Love 43:53
it 

Rich Bennett 43:53
was just saying, I know a lot of the people that can use copies of that. 

Michele Love 43:55
will get you copies. I will, I will get you, I will send you copies because it's, it was never a book to be sold. 

Rich Bennett 44:02
Yeah. 

Michele Love 44:02
It was always a book that people needed to have in in their hands as a reference because you 

Steven Hofmeister 44:07
I 

Michele Love 44:07
can reference back to it. 

Rich Bennett 44:08
Right, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:09
very. 

Michele Love 44:09
I mean, I, I would you read it in like a couple hours or a 

Steven Hofmeister 44:12
day. I, I go think it took me about two hours to get through. 

Michele Love 44:16
The whole book is, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:17
it's powerful. It's really good. It's everyone needs to read that book. It's 

Rich Bennett 44:21
whether 

Michele Love 44:21
not 

Rich Bennett 44:22
you believe or not 

Steven Hofmeister 44:23
a greed. Yes, 

Michele Love 44:24
you'll 

Steven Hofmeister 44:24
you'll, 

Michele Love 44:24
believe something 

Steven Hofmeister 44:25
done. 

Michele Love 44:25
when you're 

Steven Hofmeister 44:25
Yeah, 

Michele Love 44:26
You'll, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:26
absolutely. 

Michele Love 44:27
you'll 

Steven Hofmeister 44:27
understand really, 

Michele Love 44:29
that I really have to 

Steven Hofmeister 44:30
really stuff 

Michele Love 44:31
make a decision. 

Rich Bennett 44:31
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:33
right. 

Michele Love 44:34
Because my life in the end of my life is in is in jeopardy. 

Rich Bennett 44:40
And 

Michele Love 44:41
it's all truth, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:42
yep, it's, 

Michele Love 44:43
it's all truth and, and the way that he wrote it, because you know, a lot of the books are, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:48
have 

Michele Love 44:48
have, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:49
scripture, he didn't do that. 

Michele Love 44:50
He's like, right. And 

Steven Hofmeister 44:52
and 

Michele Love 44:52
I 

Steven Hofmeister 44:52
I 

Michele Love 44:52
was 

Steven Hofmeister 44:52
was 

Michele Love 44:52
like, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:52
like, magic fingers on my, I already remember 

Rich Bennett 44:55
Yeevers 

Steven Hofmeister 44:56
him. 

Rich Bennett 44:56
can understand 

Michele Love 44:57
Even 

Rich Bennett 44:57
it. believe. 

Michele Love 44:57
the non 

Rich Bennett 44:58
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 44:58
very easy, very easy read, very easy. 

Michele Love 45:00
Yeah, it's, it's a powerful, um, and I'm not good at marketing thing. I'm, I just write them. 

Rich Bennett 45:08
Yeah. 

Michele Love 45:09
not, it's not my thing, people 

Steven Hofmeister 45:10
It's 

Michele Love 45:10
send me stuff literally every day. I saw your book, I read your book, and I, I don't know if it's a scam or, yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 45:16
no, 

Michele Love 45:17
So, you know what I do, delete scam? I 

Rich Bennett 45:19
yeah, 

Michele Love 45:19
don't know, because I don't want, I, it's God's, 

Rich Bennett 45:23
it's, and you will get 

Michele Love 45:24
Keeps 

Rich Bennett 45:24
them people, 

Michele Love 45:25
telling me, I'll get all this out there in 

Rich Bennett 45:27
yeah. 

Michele Love 45:27
due time. But that book there's, it's something, there's something about that book. 

Rich Bennett 45:33
You guys keep that on 

Steven Hofmeister 45:34
the, 

Rich Bennett 45:35
it's you as well. 

Michele Love 45:36
Yeah, it's usually on the spot, but we took it off because 

Steven Hofmeister 45:38
Yeah, we 

Michele Love 45:38
the Vats 

Steven Hofmeister 45:38
took 

Michele Love 45:39
getting. 

Steven Hofmeister 45:39
it off 

Rich Bennett 45:39
right now. 

Michele Love 45:40
But I have a box and I'm, I'm down to maybe 10 copies, so I'm getting ready to order another whole, I'm going to order a whole case of. 

Steven Hofmeister 45:47
And all of her books are available on our website. There is a little bookstore link there on the website where you can go on and order all the books that she's written. 

Michele Love 45:55
And turn the page, the Lord made it very clear. And that's that it's a 60-second evasional for 10 ona, 10 ona, it's very short. It's wild how God did it. Like, it starts off, can I say it? Starts off with a conversation that God is having with this young person or the, the young person comes on and says, 

Steven Hofmeister 46:21
I don't want to be 

Michele Love 46:21
here anymore. 

Rich Bennett 46:22
Yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 46:23
God says, 

Michele Love 46:24
that's not your decision. 

Steven Hofmeister 46:27
The person's 

Michele Love 46:28
house so. And the person says, 'How so?' and God 

Steven Hofmeister 46:29
says, 'Because 

Michele Love 46:30
I created you, I put you here. I decide when you come home.' to back and then they're 

Steven Hofmeister 46:36
It's scripture 

Michele Love 46:36
scripture to back it up what he said. It's taking me time because of all the elements of this. I have to be totally like, 

Steven Hofmeister 46:43
'I 

Michele Love 46:43
really need to hear you.' So he went through 365 of the, of the what he's 

Steven Hofmeister 46:51
talking about in each day. 

Rich Bennett 46:53
Yeah. 

Michele Love 46:54
And then now I'm back and I'm in day 100 of finishing all of them. So you've got the conversation with God. So right now I have the title 

Steven Hofmeister 47:03
of all the days. 

Michele Love 47:04
So now it's the conversation, the scripture to back up what he just said and then it's either a prayer or a little conversation. 

Rich Bennett 47:11
I love 

Michele Love 47:12
that. It is 

Steven Hofmeister 47:12
power. Power. 

Michele Love 47:13
I mean, we have churches that want it for their 

Rich Bennett 47:15
Yeah. 

Michele Love 47:16
use. 

Steven Hofmeister 47:16
Oh 

Michele Love 47:16
So 

Steven Hofmeister 47:16
yeah. 

Michele Love 47:17
the Lord said, 'Before I turned 60, which is October 14, 

I have the same birthday as you. 

Rich Bennett 47:25
Wait a minute, you return it. What? 

Michele Love 47:26
60. Before I turn 60, that book has to be done. And I'm like, yes, sir. 

Rich Bennett 47:33
I was going to say, well you got at least another 15 years, but really you're about to be 60. 

Steven Hofmeister 47:40
No, she don't look at those she. 

Rich Bennett 47:49
Yeah, 

Michele Love 47:54
60, the big. 

Rich Bennett 47:55
Wow, October 40. Oh, October 14. 

Michele Love 47:59
Charlie Kirk day. I have 

Rich Bennett 48:01
Alright, 

Michele Love 48:01
the same. 

Rich Bennett 48:01
today 

Michele Love 48:02
is Charlie. 

Steven Hofmeister 48:03
That's 

Rich Bennett 48:03
two days after my you ready for this two days after my daughter's birthday, wife's birthday, 

nephew's birthday. Former brother of law's birthday, my cousin's birthday. October 12, busy day for us. 

Steven Hofmeister 48:21
Like it. It's, 

Michele Love 48:22
it's a very, it's a very, it's a very busy day and 

Rich Bennett 48:26
right. So fence rider. Because one of the things I 

Steven Hofmeister 48:29
all 

Rich Bennett 48:29
started doing with my 

Steven Hofmeister 48:32
practices. 

Rich Bennett 48:32
I just set up at the book fair, 

Steven Hofmeister 48:34
Bell, feature. 

Rich Bennett 48:35
as the Nice and even other things I'll do with lines club. If you, 

Steven Hofmeister 48:43
the 

Rich Bennett 48:44
pass out those books to people, I'd be more than 

Michele Love 48:46
I'll 

Rich Bennett 48:46
happy to. 

Steven Hofmeister 48:47
get them. Thank you, Rich, 

Michele Love 48:48
as soon as possible. 

Rich Bennett 48:49
It's important. 

Michele Love 48:50
It is because the times one day closer. 

Rich Bennett 48:56
Yeah, 

Michele Love 48:57
and and there are so many people that are literally on the fence. Now, there are some people that are far away from the fence. They ain't even thinking about it. 

Rich Bennett 49:04
Right. 

Michele Love 49:04
even 

Steven Hofmeister 49:05
They can't see the field. 

Rich Bennett 49:07
what 

Michele Love 49:07
I don't believe 

Rich Bennett 49:08
you believe. 

Michele Love 49:09
I don't want to deal with what you believe. And I'm just like, okay. Well, can you at least take this book? I don't want the book. 

Rich Bennett 49:16
Then give it to somebody that. 

Michele Love 49:17
That's what I 

Rich Bennett 49:18
it. 

Michele Love 49:18
say. Give 

Rich Bennett 49:19
Yeah. 

Michele Love 49:19
He also might want the 

Rich Bennett 49:20
book. Yep. 

Michele Love 49:21
You know, but, but and the book is not about me. It's not about anything. It's not about voice a truth center. 

Steven Hofmeister 49:27
Right. 

Michele Love 49:27
The book is strictly for those who are contemplating choosing. 

Rich Bennett 49:33
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 49:34
that's right. 

Michele Love 49:34
That's what. But it also explains. If you don't choose Jesus Christ, what your outcome will be 

Steven Hofmeister 49:42
word based 

Michele Love 49:43
based 

Steven Hofmeister 49:43
on 

Michele Love 49:43
on 

Steven Hofmeister 49:43
the 

Michele Love 49:43
the 

Steven Hofmeister 49:43
word of God. 

Rich Bennett 49:44
Right. 

Steven Hofmeister 49:44
Right. 

Michele Love 49:45
It's not my it's not my synopsis of where you're going when you're dead. 

Steven Hofmeister 49:49
Yeah, it's not her. It's 

Michele Love 49:50
got. 

Steven Hofmeister 49:51
It's it's. God's words. Right. 

Michele Love 49:52
And it is a very It's just a short suite, but to the point 

Steven Hofmeister 50:01
I. 

Michele Love 50:02
word. 

Rich Bennett 50:02
So which is what's needed. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:04
So 

Michele Love 50:04
I'll get some to you right away. I'll send them to you. Um, or I'll drop them off to you. But it's important. 

Rich Bennett 50:09
All right. Who wants to go first? 

Michele Love 50:12
What's the what are we? 

Rich Bennett 50:13
You're picking the last 

Steven Hofmeister 50:14
The question. 

Rich Bennett 50:15
question. Go. All two questions. One and Steve's gonna pick. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:18
All right. 

Michele Love 50:20
Oh, my. The last question. 

Rich Bennett 50:26
Oh, wait. Oh, so you are going to go first. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:28
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 50:28
Yeah. I thought 

Steven Hofmeister 50:29
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 50:29
you were. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:29
No, 

Rich Bennett 50:30
you were 

Steven Hofmeister 50:30
I thought 

Rich Bennett 50:30
sitting there, Kata. You know, 

Steven Hofmeister 50:31
let her 

Michele Love 50:31
get first. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:32
get, let her 

Rich Bennett 50:32
Steve said you're the rookie. 

Michele Love 50:34
You should go. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:35
All right. All 

Rich Bennett 50:36
So 

Steven Hofmeister 50:36
right. 

Rich Bennett 50:36
I need you. 

Michele Love 50:36
Thank 

Steven Hofmeister 50:36
Put me 

Michele Love 50:37
you. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:37
put me in the hot seat. All right, go. 

Rich Bennett 50:38
I need you to pick a number between one and five. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:41
One in five. We'll say 

Rich Bennett 50:43
three. Three. 

Michele Love 50:43
That was my 

Rich Bennett 50:44
number. All right. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:46
Now 

Rich Bennett 50:46
I need you to pick a number between 41 and 60. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:51
16. 

Rich Bennett 50:51
There's a hundred different questions. 

Steven Hofmeister 50:53
Okay. 41 to 60 50. We're just going to go with 50. I just turned 50. We'll go with 

Rich Bennett 50:58
50. 50. You know it. Okay. So let me, let me tell you about let me tell you about these questions. This is weird. 

Steven Hofmeister 51:06
Okay. 

Rich Bennett 51:06
I'm going to say probably 95% of the time. Whoever, you know, when the guest picks the question and I, I still don't know what all these questions are. Somehow another of the lines with what we've been talking about. 

Steven Hofmeister 51:18
Oh, wow. 

Michele Love 51:19
oh yeah, that's god! 

Rich Bennett 51:20
you said number fifty right? 

Steven Hofmeister 51:21
alright 

Rich Bennett 51:23
you know what? cuz you may not believe me so michelle, go ahead and read number fifty for 

Michele Love 51:28
him. 

Steven Hofmeister 51:30
what is a 

Michele Love 51:31
value that guides most of your 

Steven Hofmeister 51:34
decisions? a value that guides most of my decision. 

he's 

Michele Love 51:42
got to answer that right? 

Rich Bennett 51:43
hey, yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 51:45
that was that, well that was like trying to get ahead on the questions I was good. hey try to read the question again. 

Michele Love 51:52
values 

Steven Hofmeister 51:53
to be fair. value guides my decisions. 

cuz 

Michele Love 52:01
I think of cost. 

Rich Bennett 52:03
but it also good, well? 

Michele Love 52:05
I like it. 

Rich Bennett 52:06
yeah, it goes with what we've 

Steven Hofmeister 52:07
about. 

Rich Bennett 52:07
been 

Steven Hofmeister 52:07
I'm 

Rich Bennett 52:07
talking 

Steven Hofmeister 52:11
gonna say faith is that word that value that faith is just having to have the faith and you know, I'll be honest you know, some days that struggle to have that faith to get through certain decisions. you know, even though, you know, I work with michelle and I work in the ministry there are days where I struggle to have that faith of okay, Lord, how do I get through this? but faith has to be that always has to be that value that I fall back on and any choice that I make and I strive very hard for that to always be that choice. 

Rich Bennett 52:41
that's a great answer. see how that now is that was see how that now then? humility. 

Steven Hofmeister 52:47
humility? 

Rich Bennett 52:48
why? 

Steven Hofmeister 52:49
because 

Michele Love 52:50
because you have to have humility to have. 

Steven Hofmeister 52:54
okay. 

Rich Bennett 52:54
who? 

Steven Hofmeister 52:56
all right, 

Rich Bennett 52:56
okay, 

Michele Love 52:57
humble 

Steven Hofmeister 52:57
yourself. 

Rich Bennett 52:57
yeah, 

Michele Love 52:58
and 

Steven Hofmeister 52:59
that 

Michele Love 52:59
understand I 

Steven Hofmeister 53:00
so 

Michele Love 53:00
think it's just piggybacks. 

Rich Bennett 53:02
yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 53:03
that's good, 

Michele Love 53:03
heart 

Steven Hofmeister 53:03
the 

Michele Love 53:04
hardest 

Steven Hofmeister 53:05
thing. you're right, I agree with 

Rich Bennett 53:07
somebody told me I should do. it's start doing episodes where you just, they pick one question and that's the 

Michele Love 53:14
that. 

Rich Bennett 53:14
whole conversation, 

Michele Love 53:14
I 

Rich Bennett 53:14
which it 

Michele Love 53:15
love 

Rich Bennett 53:15
could 

Michele Love 53:15
it. 

Rich Bennett 53:15
be, 

Steven Hofmeister 53:15
be, that's 

Rich Bennett 53:15
it could 

Steven Hofmeister 53:16
the concept. yeah, 

Rich Bennett 53:17
it could be all right, michelle, pick a number between one and five. you can't pick the same numbers, 

Steven Hofmeister 53:24
but. and you can't pick one that you dread. 

Michele Love 53:26
I'll do five 

Rich Bennett 53:28
number five, 

Steven Hofmeister 53:30
I 

Michele Love 53:30
was number of grays 

Rich Bennett 53:32
now pick a number between 81 and 100. 

Michele Love 53:37
um let's say 99. yeah. 99. 

Rich Bennett 53:42
99. get smart. 

Steve go ahead 

Michele Love 53:50
it. 

Rich Bennett 53:50
and read 

Michele Love 53:50
All 

Steven Hofmeister 53:50
right, number 99. 

Rich Bennett 53:52
talk about George. 

Steven Hofmeister 54:01
you're going to love this. 

Michele Love 54:02
read 

it. 

Steven Hofmeister 54:05
if you could 

Rich Bennett 54:06
if 

Steven Hofmeister 54:06
eliminate, you could eliminate one source of stress from your life, of 

Rich Bennett 54:16
course it would not be 

Michele Love 54:17
know that. no, 

Rich Bennett 54:18
George, we 

Steven Hofmeister 54:18
I love 

Rich Bennett 54:19
him. 

Michele Love 54:20
it's God divine. I mean, I don't I can honestly say and Steve can pry back this up. I really don't stress over stuff. I go into a quiet mode, and I pray. 

Steven Hofmeister 54:34
yeah, 

Michele Love 54:34
there 

Steven Hofmeister 54:34
but if 

Michele Love 54:35
was one thing that I think is so hard for me to comprehend. it's when you teach and you preach to the 

Steven Hofmeister 54:45
same people, 

Michele Love 54:46
and they don't 

Rich Bennett 54:46
it. 

Michele Love 54:47
get 

Rich Bennett 54:47
yes, 

Michele Love 54:48
that that is to me that is so 

Rich Bennett 54:51
that can be stressful. 

Michele Love 54:52
I'm just like we talked about this, like you know what the weapons of warfare are, you know how to pray, you know how to use word, you know, you have to have time with. so I think for me, and I'll give you something God said to me a couple of months ago, he said, 

Steven Hofmeister 55:08
you 

Michele Love 55:08
you 

Steven Hofmeister 55:09
preach the word. you're 

Michele Love 55:10
you're 

Steven Hofmeister 55:10
not 

Michele Love 55:10
not. 

Steven Hofmeister 55:11
responsible for 

Michele Love 55:11
them. 

Rich Bennett 55:12
yeah. 

Michele Love 55:13
you just give 

Steven Hofmeister 55:14
give them 

Michele Love 55:14
them the 

Steven Hofmeister 55:14
the truth. 

Michele Love 55:14
truth. they what they 

Steven Hofmeister 55:17
do with that truth is between 

Michele Love 55:18
and 

Steven Hofmeister 55:18
them. 

Michele Love 55:19
what God spoke that to me, I was like and that doesn't just go for people in the ministry that's everybody, 

Rich Bennett 55:25
right. 

Michele Love 55:25
even my husband. 

Steven Hofmeister 55:26
right. 

Michele Love 55:27
and I tell Georgie that I'm going to give you 

Steven Hofmeister 55:30
truth. 

Michele Love 55:31
what you do with it is between you and God. I'm going to take care of you, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, I'm going to be your wife, and your partner and your lover, I'm going to be all that to you. I don't have anything to do with your 

Rich Bennett 55:45
relationship with 

Michele Love 55:45
God, and when 

Steven Hofmeister 55:46
you know that 

Michele Love 55:47
walking into a relationship or walking into being, you know, a preacher like I am, it is so comforting. 

Rich Bennett 55:58
and 

Michele Love 55:59
that's what I tell people now. I'm giving you the truth what you do with it, but don't be coming back 

Steven Hofmeister 56:03
to me, 

Michele Love 56:05
being upset with me, because you don't get it. 

Steven Hofmeister 56:08
because 

Michele Love 56:08
you're not listening. do you know how many times the Bible says to give them ears to hear? and James 119, be quick to listen. shut your mouth, slow to speak, shut your mouth, and slow to get anger, shut your mouth. Seriously, that's what that means. Stop talking. Listen, listen, listen, listen. And so I just been taking that ears to hear to another level with our ministry, you know, and say, "Lord, please 

Steven Hofmeister 56:41
open 

Michele Love 56:41
and their spiritual ears, because they'll never get truth if they don't receive 

Rich Bennett 56:44
their 

Michele Love 56:44
it." 

Rich Bennett 56:44
ears 

Michele Love 56:45
You have 

Rich Bennett 56:45
to the 

Michele Love 56:45
to 

Rich Bennett 56:45
ministry 

Michele Love 56:45
receive it. I mean, you have to receive what you're praying. You have to receive the word. The Bible is for a person to learn the concepts, the precepts, and the truth between them and God. You can't preach it if you're not doing it. Like, I can't preach something. I can't get up there on Sunday and preach about gossiping and lying and then turn around and go gossiping, go lying. I'm a hypocrite. 

Rich Bennett 57:19
Yeah. 

Michele Love 57:20
So people need to understand. When people come up to me and they're like, "Oh, I heard your message. It was so good. I've been in the Bible this morning." Really? What did you 

Steven Hofmeister 57:28
Read. 

Michele Love 57:28
read? I'm all excited. And they're like, "They just lied to me." 

Steven Hofmeister 57:33
Yeah. 

Michele Love 57:33
You know what I was saying? So 

Steven Hofmeister 57:36
if 

Michele Love 57:37
the Lord is 

Steven Hofmeister 57:38
telling you 

Michele Love 57:40
to get in the word and you're not doing it, that's not on me. 

Rich Bennett 57:45
No. 

Michele Love 57:46
That's on you. 

Rich Bennett 57:47
Exactly. 

Michele Love 57:48
when 

Steven Hofmeister 57:48
Because 

Michele Love 57:48
I do a message or I evangelize, I pray for the Holy Spirit to induel in me so the words come out or his and not mine. I don't even remember half the time what I preach. I have to go back and watch it and I'm like, "Oh, that was good God." And I'm taking notes from the message I preached that morning. Because it is him, not me. Jesus said, "I only speak what the Father tells me and the saying goes for us today." 

Steven Hofmeister 58:17
If you 

Michele Love 58:17
have the Holy Spirit indwelling in you, which is the Spirit of the Lord, he'll speak through you. Do you ever say something you're like, "I don't know where that came from?" 

Rich Bennett 58:25
Oh, 

Steven Hofmeister 58:26
yeah! 

Michele Love 58:27
That's the Holy Spirit. 

Rich Bennett 58:29
Yeah, 

Michele Love 58:30
powerful, isn't 

Rich Bennett 58:30
it 

Michele Love 58:30
it? 

Rich Bennett 58:31
is. 

Michele Love 58:31
Or God will give you something to tell somebody and you're like, "I don't know what 

Steven Hofmeister 58:34
It's 

Michele Love 58:34
this 

Rich Bennett 58:35
means." 

I mentioned in the beginning of this and you and I have had talked about it today. Some you were on about doing an episode about how to listen to God and how to talk to God. Maybe I'm not supposed to do that episode. Maybe you're supposed to write the book about 

that. Yeah. 

Michele Love 59:02
Well, you 

Rich Bennett 59:03
He's gonna 

Michele Love 59:03
get 

Rich Bennett 59:03
let 

Michele Love 59:04
more... 

Rich Bennett 59:05
you know, or he's gonna let me know, or he's gonna let both of us know. He has let in both of us, oh, yeah. 

Steven Hofmeister 59:12
Oh, 

Michele Love 59:12
yeah. 

Rich Bennett 59:13
That's what I'm telling you, we are twins. We are clones! 

Steven Hofmeister 59:17
Connected with a brain cell somewhere, right? That's right, 

Rich Bennett 59:22
yeah. 

Michele Love 59:23
And it would be 

Rich Bennett 59:24
easy to read. 

Michele Love 59:26
Very much what you need 

Steven Hofmeister 59:28
to do, 

Michele Love 59:31
and he keeps showing me that you've 

Steven Hofmeister 59:33
to ask, 

Michele Love 59:33
got 

Steven Hofmeister 59:34
you've got to 

Michele Love 59:35
listen, 

Steven Hofmeister 59:35
you've got to obey, you've got to ask this and obey. And yeah, I'm 

Michele Love 59:39
I'm 

Steven Hofmeister 59:39
gonna... 

Michele Love 59:39
gonna pray about it, but he's showing me that it's a very small book. 

Rich Bennett 59:42
They 

Michele Love 59:43
You can put in your briefcase or a woman can put in their purse, kid can put in their backpack. And it's 

Rich Bennett 59:49
have 

Michele Love 59:49
very 

Rich Bennett 59:49
it right 

Michele Love 59:50
short. 

Rich Bennett 59:50
there. Yes, yeah. 

Michele Love 59:52
And then he's also putting prayers there. 

Rich Bennett 59:54
specific... 

Michele Love 59:54
There's 

Rich Bennett 59:55
Yeah. 

Michele Love 59:55
But it's more about this is how you talk to God. This is how you listen to God. This is how you obey God. It's kind of like a manual of praying for dummies. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:10
I was saying... This is... no, this is just too weird because the whole time your talk comes in there, almost like a book for dummies thing. 

You're not dumb if you don't know how to pray or 

Michele Love 1:00:26
something like 

Rich Bennett 1:00:27
that. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:00:27
It's something else that you could use to call for dummies, what was it? Bible 

Rich Bennett 1:00:35
study for dummies? 

Steven Hofmeister 1:00:38
Oh, that's how you refer to the message translate. 

Michele Love 1:00:43
That's right. Oh, the message 

Steven Hofmeister 1:00:45
Bible. The message Bible. The Bible for dummies. 

Michele Love 1:00:47
Bible for dummies. And 

Steven Hofmeister 1:00:47
The 

Michele Love 1:00:47
that's basically... I learned from it for nine years. I read the message. 

Rich Bennett 1:00:51
I was going to say... 

Steven Hofmeister 1:00:53
Nine 

Michele Love 1:00:53
years I was in the message. My whole message book is fallen apart. There's no car... it was a paperback. And I'm like, no, no, no, I don't want to know. And George would say let me get you... I'm like, oh, no, no, this one is 27 years 

Rich Bennett 1:01:03
old. That's 

Michele Love 1:01:04
right. No way. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:05
it's 

Rich Bennett 1:01:05
It's... 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:06
just... 

Rich Bennett 1:01:07
Funny how things line up. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:09
Yeah. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:09
We got rid of a bunch of books the other day and I haven't taken them to the Tadethus house yet. One of them was Catholicism for dummies. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:17
He 

still says... 

So 

Rich Bennett 1:01:29
like 'ok, let me get the 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:30
I 

Rich Bennett 1:01:31
owners 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:31
was 

Rich Bennett 1:01:31
man, I got to figure out how to fold in these seats.' Over the bottom glove box, there's not, there's no 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:37
owners 

Rich Bennett 1:01:37
over the glove box, nice, thick, brown leather. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:43
man, 

Rich Bennett 1:01:43
In case owner's manual pulled it out best owner's manual, you'll ever 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:48
read. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:49
It was the Bible now. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:51
There you go. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:52
There is no owner's manual in the car whatsoever, but that Bible 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:56
in 

Rich Bennett 1:01:56
was 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:56
there. That's right. 

Michele Love 1:01:57
God. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:58
Yeah, 

Steven Hofmeister 1:01:58
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 1:01:59
and it was, 

Michele Love 1:01:59
in 

Rich Bennett 1:01:59
it was 

Michele Love 1:02:00
left in the van. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:00
It left in the van, the guy 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:02
it. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:02
who pre-he owned 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:03
Wow. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:05
It's like, this, this is too 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:07
And 

Rich Bennett 1:02:07
cool. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:07
it is, 

Rich Bennett 1:02:08
it's, I said, this 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:09
best 

Rich Bennett 1:02:09
is the owner's manual anybody could ever have. like to show it to you when we get 

Michele Love 1:02:15
I 

Rich Bennett 1:02:15
out there. 

Michele Love 1:02:16
would 

Rich Bennett 1:02:16
It's nice, it's a nice Bible. Who wants to 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:19
who wants to 

Rich Bennett 1:02:20
finish 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:20
finish 

Rich Bennett 1:02:20
this? 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:20
this? 

Michele Love 1:02:22
I would love to, but if you want to, you can. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:25
Please. 

Michele Love 1:02:25
Alright, you ready? God. 

Rich Bennett 1:02:27
Always. 

Michele Love 1:02:27
Dear 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:27
Dear 

Michele Love 1:02:27
God, you have been so gracious to us today. What a, a precious, blessed time that we have had together on conversations with rich. Conversations with you, God, because you've been here the whole time, speaking 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:42
Do 

Michele Love 1:02:42
through 

Steven Hofmeister 1:02:42
what? 

Michele Love 1:02:42
us and, and, and parallel in us with ideas and thoughts and creativity. You are such a gracious God. We could never do this without you. Thank you for being here with us. Thank you for putting word in our mouth. Thank you for helping us to talk about the VOT, the voice, the vehicle of truth. I love that so much. And thank you for, for opening new doors for, for the VOT to go out, for us to go visit new cities and, and bring hope and bring everything that's on that bus, which is word, prayer and truth. So thank you, Father God, for rich. you. I truly, multiply him hundredfold for his heart to serve you, for his heart to get truth out there, for his heart, for 

Steven Hofmeister 1:03:28
Yes, 

Michele Love 1:03:29
people to share their stories, and for authors to talk about their books. That is so 

Steven Hofmeister 1:03:34
Father. You've, 

Michele Love 1:03:34
you, God, to get the voice of truth that he is out there to help other people understand their not alone. There is help, there is hope. And it's just so powerful, when this whole podcast gets started. You can feel your presence here, God. So thank you for multiplying this podcast, multiplying this man and his family and his life. hundredfold, thank you for multiplying the voice of truth center and the hope on wheels, multiply it hundredfold, Lord. You tell us where to go. You'll provide the gas, the means, 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:13
everything 

Michele Love 1:04:13
everything 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:13
on 

Michele Love 1:04:13
on that bus 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:14
and the 

Michele Love 1:04:15
people that we're supposed to go to. So thank you, God, for all that you did today. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:21
people, the 

Michele Love 1:04:21
I mean Lord Jesus, so, 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:23
you did 

Michele Love 1:04:23
so much today. And we are grateful, and we love you. 

Steven Hofmeister 1:04:31
Amen. 

Rich Bennett 1:04:31
Amen. 


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